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  3. When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

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  • anomnomnomaly@beige.partyA anomnomnomaly@beige.party

    @Dany @futurebird

    It's worth pointing out that I wasn't 'taught' this method by anyone... I simply discovered it naturally and started using it.

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    #100

    @Anomnomnomaly @futurebird There are multiple levels of meta when you say "i learned" or "i was taught" or "i figured out [by my own device]. The processes behind is what creates the magick of a human intellect. There is NO 10-point list for that. None of us got something from g#d that made us better/cooler/smarter than the next guy. It's just luck (Quoring: Joni Mitchell & Chalie Mingus, Dry Cleaner from Des Moines).

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

      That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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      #101

      @futurebird

      Mostly I have that one memorized. Otherwise, I decompose it into 5*8 + 2*8, which is 40 + 16.

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        Look at the edit history if you want a laugh.

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        #102

        @futurebird

        If that's how your brain is working this morning, I recommend you don't play around with 57 just now:

        https://hsm.stackexchange.com/questions/6358/story-of-grothendiecks-prime-number

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

          That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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          #103

          @futurebird

          The bigger question is: are the hardest ones 6*7, 7*8, and 8*9 just for me, or for most people? And why?

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

            That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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            #104

            @futurebird I think that I get the answer because treadmills get set at 7.5 mph to get 8 minute miles. Maybe my answer should be “another math trick.”

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

              That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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              #105

              @futurebird I don't instantly know what 7*8 is, but I do know what 8*7 is.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                #106

                @futurebird

                I have a lot of anchor points in the times table memorized and 7*7 and 8*8 are two of them. I use them to get to the close by result quickly

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                  That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                  #107

                  @futurebird

                  8×8-8

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                    That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                    #108

                    @futurebird 7*7=49 + 7= 56

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                    • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                      @futurebird

                      Mostly I have that one memorized. Otherwise, I decompose it into 5*8 + 2*8, which is 40 + 16.

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                      #109

                      @michael_w_busch @futurebird Yup, same. Alas, I don't have the full* table memorized these days, but I know enough to be dangerous and can 2-step my way to the answer.

                      * Did we all learn up to 12x12? That's how UK schools do/did it.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                        That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                        #110

                        @futurebird 4*14, maybe?

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                          That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                          #111

                          @futurebird
                          Memorized, sure, but that particular product takes me a second to remember it.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                            That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                            #112

                            ohk im happy with the poll result, im also one of those that have some basic math thingies memorized and not really do any math to figure it out... phew!

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                              That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                              #113

                              @futurebird I will admit to doing 7×7 in my head and then adding seven!

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                              • akamran@indieweb.socialA akamran@indieweb.social

                                @futurebird I did 7*7=49 then added 7, which means 1 less than 7+50 (because ending in 9), resulting in 56.

                                I did have the multiplication tables memorized in 3 & 4 grade, but I don't really much basic math on a daily basis, and if I do, I generally need to write it down so I can see it. I'm afraid that if I don't make a deliberate effort, I'll be innumerate.

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                                #114

                                @akamran @futurebird

                                28*2 or 50-14 probably.

                                Rote - instant recall - memorization of the entire table seems unnecessary to me… once the first half is in your head the rest is available quickly though doubling and adjacent addition/subtraction, but also, because human brains are very inconsistent at it. Personally, I think that flexibility of knowing how to connect relationships across categories and patterns is a huge part of learning to *think* mathematically.

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                  That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                  #115

                                  @futurebird I would say I don’t have it memorized. With the explanation given, I’ll probably use the other math fact that I have 2**n memorized a bit. So 8**2 = 64 then 64-8 = 56.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                    That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                    #116

                                    @futurebird I know my squares, so I do 7*7 and then add 7.

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                      That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                      #117

                                      @futurebird when I was little I hated math and did everything to get out of doing any math. So I memorized the times tables, which I guess must have seemed easier? Anyway I remember being able to recite the correct answer quickly when it was just numbers, but being stumped when it was a word problem with apples or whatever.

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                        That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                        #118

                                        @futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        When I forget my timestables:
                                        7 * 10 = 70.
                                        10-8 = 2.
                                        2 * 7 = 14.
                                        70-14 = 56.

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                          That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                          #119

                                          @futurebird 7×8 = 5×8 + 2×8 = (10×8)/2 + 2×8 = 80/2 + 8 + 8 = 40 + 16 = 56

                                          easy

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