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“It is time to tell the AI industry to go fuck itself, because it’s effectively done the same to the rest of society."

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  • wendypalmer@mastodon.auW This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://raggedfeathers.com/@lilithsaintcrow/116881837475926686

    “It is time to tell the AI industry to go fuck itself, because it’s effectively done the same to the rest of society."

    This quote rings particularly loud for me today in light of this story from Bona Books, about coming within a whisker of contaminating an anthology with extruded mediocre:

    https://www.bona-books.com/news/we-bought-an-ai-story

    While they’re relatively philosophical about the new challenges of this type of fraud, the toll taken on a group of volunteers trying to do something good in the world must have been, and will continue to be, extensive.

    #WritingCommunity

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    • wendypalmer@mastodon.auW wendypalmer@mastodon.au

      RE: https://raggedfeathers.com/@lilithsaintcrow/116881837475926686

      “It is time to tell the AI industry to go fuck itself, because it’s effectively done the same to the rest of society."

      This quote rings particularly loud for me today in light of this story from Bona Books, about coming within a whisker of contaminating an anthology with extruded mediocre:

      https://www.bona-books.com/news/we-bought-an-ai-story

      While they’re relatively philosophical about the new challenges of this type of fraud, the toll taken on a group of volunteers trying to do something good in the world must have been, and will continue to be, extensive.

      #WritingCommunity

      holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @wendypalmer

      "What we no longer believe is that we will always be able to look at an AI story and know.

      Bona Books accidentally bought an AI story. Indeed, we very nearly bought two, with a further three longlisted.

      And this is a problem bigger than just us."

      This makes me feel a tad better for having unwittingly bought some AI books and read them, without knowing.

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        RE: https://raggedfeathers.com/@lilithsaintcrow/116881837475926686

        “It is time to tell the AI industry to go fuck itself, because it’s effectively done the same to the rest of society."

        This quote rings particularly loud for me today in light of this story from Bona Books, about coming within a whisker of contaminating an anthology with extruded mediocre:

        https://www.bona-books.com/news/we-bought-an-ai-story

        While they’re relatively philosophical about the new challenges of this type of fraud, the toll taken on a group of volunteers trying to do something good in the world must have been, and will continue to be, extensive.

        #WritingCommunity

        malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @wendypalmer This gives me some hope that eventually we will get much more clear on the GenAI signature / tell-tale marks and collectively get more effective at sniffing out the slop.

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        • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

          @wendypalmer

          "What we no longer believe is that we will always be able to look at an AI story and know.

          Bona Books accidentally bought an AI story. Indeed, we very nearly bought two, with a further three longlisted.

          And this is a problem bigger than just us."

          This makes me feel a tad better for having unwittingly bought some AI books and read them, without knowing.

          wendypalmer@mastodon.auW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @HollieK72 yes! It’s an easy mistake to make when you’re unaware of what to look for (and time-consuming to filter it when you are aware of what to look for, which also changes), and it’s unfair to expect readers to spot it.

          I hate the idea of accusing indie writers without evidence, but the editors at Bona Books were clear they only thought to check thanks to help from their community. So open discussion might be the only way for readers to wade through.

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          • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

            @wendypalmer This gives me some hope that eventually we will get much more clear on the GenAI signature / tell-tale marks and collectively get more effective at sniffing out the slop.

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            @malte yes, hopefully. It’ll be an ever-moving target. in their full report, they talk about editors needing resources and training to keep on top of it, just like bank clerks have training to spot fraud (and it is fraud, if their submissions guidelines specifically disallow slop). It might get to the point writers submit evidence with their submissions.

            Or maybe the AI bubble will collapse, and it won’t be free/cheap for scammers to produce fake stories anymore and they’ll move on to the next fraud.

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