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every suicide is murder: capitalism and mental illness

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  • aptronym@autistics.lifeA aptronym@autistics.life

    @cy that is the most fascist ass idea one could possibly express as a response to this piece.

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    Sorry I've known more people who had horrible lingering deaths than suicide. They're both really sad.
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    • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
      Sorry I've known more people who had horrible lingering deaths than suicide. They're both really sad.
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      @cy and why were they condemned to such agony in their final years? why is it always about “the right to die with dignity” and never the right to full comprehensive palliative care? what if instead of convincing doctors it’s ok to kill people, we fought for investment in medical advancements? what if we didn’t treat all patients as potential drug addicts? what if we held the system accountable for that instead of eating their shit without question? of course capitalists would rather we fight for the right to let them exterminate us rather than demanding they give up any of their precious nickels and dimes to let us be alive with dignity.

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      • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
        Sorry I've known more people who had horrible lingering deaths than suicide. They're both really sad.
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        @cy and for the second time -apology not accepted because you’re being manipulative. again. please knock it off. i would love for you to be thoughtful instead.

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        • aptronym@autistics.lifeA aptronym@autistics.life

          @cy and why were they condemned to such agony in their final years? why is it always about “the right to die with dignity” and never the right to full comprehensive palliative care? what if instead of convincing doctors it’s ok to kill people, we fought for investment in medical advancements? what if we didn’t treat all patients as potential drug addicts? what if we held the system accountable for that instead of eating their shit without question? of course capitalists would rather we fight for the right to let them exterminate us rather than demanding they give up any of their precious nickels and dimes to let us be alive with dignity.

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          If I could do something for a man with dementia so bad that he no longer spoke or recognized anyone, or reacted to anything, I sure would. But seeing his wife just crying and crying in our small group because she had to be his primary caregiver since she couldn't afford the $3000 a week to pay someone else to feed him and wipe his ass, and nobody would let her let him go... didn't make me feel very bad about someone passing away. We need universal, socialized health care, so that the criteria for keeping people alive is not how much money they have. We need people researching medical advancements for the good of humanity. We also need to know when to let go.
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          • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
            If I could do something for a man with dementia so bad that he no longer spoke or recognized anyone, or reacted to anything, I sure would. But seeing his wife just crying and crying in our small group because she had to be his primary caregiver since she couldn't afford the $3000 a week to pay someone else to feed him and wipe his ass, and nobody would let her let him go... didn't make me feel very bad about someone passing away. We need universal, socialized health care, so that the criteria for keeping people alive is not how much money they have. We need people researching medical advancements for the good of humanity. We also need to know when to let go.
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            @cy so your threshold for when it’s “time to let go” is when someone becomes an inconvenience. why is it that you can only imagine one single change to the system, while everything else remains exactly the same? it’s that kind of thinking that holds us all back. it’s not harmless. you do not need to conjure up scenarios in which you think “surely this person should be exterminated” - nobody needs that from you. we’ve got plenty of fascists who do that. if you find yourself doing that, it’s a sign that you keep thinking, and not respond immediately. it’s actually GOOD to spend time thinking and considering and reflecting on ideas.

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            • aptronym@autistics.lifeA aptronym@autistics.life

              @cy so your threshold for when it’s “time to let go” is when someone becomes an inconvenience. why is it that you can only imagine one single change to the system, while everything else remains exactly the same? it’s that kind of thinking that holds us all back. it’s not harmless. you do not need to conjure up scenarios in which you think “surely this person should be exterminated” - nobody needs that from you. we’ve got plenty of fascists who do that. if you find yourself doing that, it’s a sign that you keep thinking, and not respond immediately. it’s actually GOOD to spend time thinking and considering and reflecting on ideas.

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              I just talked about universal health care and eliminating privately funded research. That is a lot of changes to the system.
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              • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
                I just talked about universal health care and eliminating privately funded research. That is a lot of changes to the system.
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                @cy now you’re wasting my time

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