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  3. Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT.

Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

    Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

    https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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    #23

    @sundogplanets Sooooo… obviously this is a fucking disaster, but how in the hell do we *undo* this bullshit without creating more of a problem (ie, blowing them up would be bad, deorbiting them would probably also be bad, etc)?

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    • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

      @sundogplanets Sooooo… obviously this is a fucking disaster, but how in the hell do we *undo* this bullshit without creating more of a problem (ie, blowing them up would be bad, deorbiting them would probably also be bad, etc)?

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      #24

      @octothorpe @sundogplanets We need that Jewish space laser.

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      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

        @sundogplanets We should rebrand SpaceX™️ == SpaceTrash™️

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        #25

        @stux @sundogplanets 🙌
        Or SpaceXcrement™️ will do too?

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          @BurritoSommelier We're already in Kessler syndrome at many altitudes. It's just the timescale between collisions is slow (for now)

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          #26

          @sundogplanets I watched this last night and one interviewee said basically the same thing - effectively that there’s enough up there already that it’s just a matter of time now

          https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/space-wars/

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

            Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

            https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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            #27

            @sundogplanets Suddenly, it all makes sense now.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

              Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

              https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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              #28

              @sundogplanets
              Soon, if not already, they will demand that other satellites, including geo-stationary ones, not interfere with Starlink transmission/spectrum. After all, the FCC is in their pocket.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                #29

                @sundogplanets It's 2026 so I think we've got plenty of evidence that no one is going to stop this jackass with the "rule of law" or "public shaming". That hypothesis is well and truly invalidated.

                So what's next? Blowing up SpaceX facilities, or Musk's jets, using drones?

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                  Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                  https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                  #30

                  @sundogplanets if a collision does happen that causes Kessler syndrome and assuming shrapnel that can't be tracked is created, is there some minimum amount of time that all* the subsequent space trash will fall out of LEO. Is there a significant risk that it goes to higher orbit?

                  * Or enough that normal probability rules for safety apply

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                  • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                    @sundogplanets
                    Soon, if not already, they will demand that other satellites, including geo-stationary ones, not interfere with Starlink transmission/spectrum. After all, the FCC is in their pocket.

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                    #31

                    @AkaSci 😬

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                    • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                      @sundogplanets
                      Soon, if not already, they will demand that other satellites, including geo-stationary ones, not interfere with Starlink transmission/spectrum. After all, the FCC is in their pocket.

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                      #32

                      @AkaSci @sundogplanets

                      Fox Sports v Starlink is going to be a lit legal proceeding considering how much they’re advertising during NFL games.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                        Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                        https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                        #33

                        @sundogplanets

                        Elon is a reptilian ET and he’s using his satellites to rig elections.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                          Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                          https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                          #34

                          @sundogplanets lol

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                            Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                            https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                            #35

                            @sundogplanets I hate space x.
                            Such intrusion.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                              Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                              https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                              #36

                              @sundogplanets

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                #37

                                SpaceX just got approved for 15,000 more direct-to-cell satellites: https://www.fcc.gov/document/spacex-approved-ngso-mss-system-direct-device-services

                                Giant, bright, radio-loud. Fuck. I just saw SO MANY SATELLITES in my sky. Guess there will be more. And then lots of debris.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  SpaceX just got approved for 15,000 more direct-to-cell satellites: https://www.fcc.gov/document/spacex-approved-ngso-mss-system-direct-device-services

                                  Giant, bright, radio-loud. Fuck. I just saw SO MANY SATELLITES in my sky. Guess there will be more. And then lots of debris.

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                                  #38

                                  @sundogplanets fuck this fucking fuck

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    SpaceX just got approved for 15,000 more direct-to-cell satellites: https://www.fcc.gov/document/spacex-approved-ngso-mss-system-direct-device-services

                                    Giant, bright, radio-loud. Fuck. I just saw SO MANY SATELLITES in my sky. Guess there will be more. And then lots of debris.

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                                    #39

                                    @sundogplanets

                                    What are these metals doing to our upper atmosphere after de-orbit? At one point, we'd have insisted on studying this extensively before launching tens of thousands of satellites that will eventually come back down ... now, when you're a trillionaire, they just let you do it.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      SpaceX just got approved for 15,000 more direct-to-cell satellites: https://www.fcc.gov/document/spacex-approved-ngso-mss-system-direct-device-services

                                      Giant, bright, radio-loud. Fuck. I just saw SO MANY SATELLITES in my sky. Guess there will be more. And then lots of debris.

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                                      #40

                                      @sundogplanets
                                      Beyond disappointing.

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                                      • boelder@shakedown.socialB boelder@shakedown.social

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        What are these metals doing to our upper atmosphere after de-orbit? At one point, we'd have insisted on studying this extensively before launching tens of thousands of satellites that will eventually come back down ... now, when you're a trillionaire, they just let you do it.

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                                        #41

                                        @boelder The FCC officially decided that environmental regulations don't apply to them (after not following them anyway for decades) a few days ago https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-425491A1.pdf

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          @boelder The FCC officially decided that environmental regulations don't apply to them (after not following them anyway for decades) a few days ago https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-425491A1.pdf

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                                          #42

                                          @sundogplanets

                                          It is the -actual- environment. Put it on the list of things we'll have to address in Jan 2027.

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