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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

    Thank you for your support!

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    #46

    @fdroidorg Done!

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    • tehstu@hachyderm.ioT tehstu@hachyderm.io

      @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux

      I read some of those threads linked from the discuss link. This whole situation is exhausting. Multiple ways to get screwed over on multiple fronts. The layman has no chance to understand any of this.

      And then, of course, you'll get a pithy "use ubuntu" reply to these threads, which is fine if you have one of the 12 old phones supported by it.

      I don't know what the solution is, but if the answer is "get the apk from github and ensure you trust the dev" then essentially everyone is screwed.

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      #47

      @tehstu @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux yeah, it's a technical discussion, sorry I assumed more than I should have (it's an xkcd 2501 situation, look it up lol). However, I have to say that relying on GitHub releases is not that bad of a deal with an app store like Obtainium, which streamlines app updates. It's actually a quite secure model since it comes as straight from the developer as it possibly can.

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      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

        Thank you for your support!

        diaamahmoud97@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #48

        @fdroidorg @marcprux Wow, a crucial warning! ⚠️ It's time to be vigilant and take action to keep Android open and our privacy safe.

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        • alonely0@mastodon.socialA alonely0@mastodon.social

          @tehstu @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux yeah, it's a technical discussion, sorry I assumed more than I should have (it's an xkcd 2501 situation, look it up lol). However, I have to say that relying on GitHub releases is not that bad of a deal with an app store like Obtainium, which streamlines app updates. It's actually a quite secure model since it comes as straight from the developer as it possibly can.

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          #49

          @Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

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          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            ttfka_tay0@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #50

            @fdroidorg @marcprux
            How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

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            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

              @Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

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              #51

              @fdroidorg @tehstu @cy8aer of course. It's a battle we fight together regardless of preference for app stores or ROMs. Ty for attaching sources!

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              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                Thank you for your support!

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                #52

                @fdroidorg @marcprux
                Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

                > Dear citizen,
                >
                > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Google’s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
                ... 1/N

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                • preuk@framapiaf.orgP preuk@framapiaf.org

                  @fdroidorg @marcprux
                  Got a quick answer from EU's DMA Team, they might have a standard response due to high demand :

                  > Dear citizen,
                  >
                  > Thank you for contacting us and sharing your concerns regarding the impact of Google’s plans to introduce a developer verification process on Android. We appreciate that you have chosen to contact us, as we welcome feedback from interested parties.
                  ... 1/N

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                  #53

                  > As you may be aware, the Digital Markets Act (‘DMA’) obliges gatekeepers like Google to effectively allow the distribution of apps on their operating system through third party app stores or the web. At the same time, the DMA also permits Google to introduce strictly necessary and proportionate measures to ensure that third-party software apps or app stores do not endanger the integrity of the hardware or operating system or to enable end users to effectively protect security.
                  ... 2/3

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                  • zetabeta@mastodon.socialZ zetabeta@mastodon.social

                    @fdroidorg @marcprux
                    i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

                    still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

                    it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

                    of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

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                    #54

                    @zetabeta
                    My phone runs Android, my parents' too.
                    Google is going to prevent us from installing what we want on devices where we had been able to until now.
                    Devices that we bought and that will still be perfectly functioning 5 years from now.
                    Hence why this is a fight worth fighting.
                    @fdroidorg @marcprux

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                    • ttfka_tay0@fosstodon.orgT ttfka_tay0@fosstodon.org

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux
                      How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

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                      #55

                      @TTFKA_Tay0 To be fair, they are not alternatives, they use the same code, and are at the mercy of Google when it comes to releasing such code. Otherwise, once installed, Lineage and other Android distributions can give the freedom back to their users to install what they want.

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                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        rpla@masto.esR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #56

                        @fdroidorg @marcprux
                        Si china puede hacer un clon de Android, ¿Acaso no puede hacerlo Europa?
                        ¿Para cuando un Linux para dispositivos móviles?
                        ¿hasta cuando seguiremos siendo vasallos de las multinacionales norteamericanas?
                        ¿Para cuando nuestra delcaración de Soberania Digital?

                        ¡Sin Soberania Digital no hay libertad, independencia ni democrácia!

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                        • alandvalonline@mastodon.socialA alandvalonline@mastodon.social

                          @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

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                          #57

                          @alandvalonline @fdroidorg

                          I also wish for this. Linux drivers for legacy phone hardware, a Chromebook level of simplicity for installing or running variant UX's, maybe from a removable card or USB stick... A secure OS like Tails... Siloed apps... I don't want corporate access to any data.
                          ..

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                          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            jmjm@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #58

                            @fdroidorg @marcprux

                            unfortunately my country has crashed. Abort, retry, fail?

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                            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

                              apicultor@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #59

                              @fdroidorg
                              Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                              Until then, #Obtainium.

                              @marcprux

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                              • apicultor@hachyderm.ioA apicultor@hachyderm.io

                                @fdroidorg
                                Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                                Until then, #Obtainium.

                                @marcprux

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                                #60

                                @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

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                                  #61
                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                                  • apicultor@hachyderm.ioA apicultor@hachyderm.io

                                    @fdroidorg
                                    Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                                    Until then, #Obtainium.

                                    @marcprux

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                                    #62

                                    @apicultor If you have questions why not drop by and ask directly? https://f-droid.org/about/#contact Posts from 2021 and half-truths on forums won't give you the information you need.

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                                    • nomadmisha@mastodon.worldN nomadmisha@mastodon.world

                                      @fdroidorg @marcprux
                                      🫱Ubuntu Touch (@ubports)

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                                      #63

                                      @nomadmisha @fdroidorg @marcprux @ubports
                                      told'ya google are evil, zionists evil. resists! 💪

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                                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                        @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                                        #64

                                        @fdroidorg
                                        Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

                                        https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613430404

                                        Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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                                        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                          Thank you for your support!

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                                          #65

                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. 👌

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