Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses?
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@whvholst @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I wonder how many of them will allow you to pay bills in Amsterdam.
@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Even assuming that one could not live anywhere else on the planet but in Amsterdam (poor soul!), there are plenty of jobs in Amsterdam that do not involve taking a job at a corporation that has been complicit in multiple genocides like Meta is.
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Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )
@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom How's this black mirror experiment to make you uneasy by @Surf' s John Walker with students ...?
https://communities.surf.nl/en/publieke-waarden/article/were-building-something-irresponsible-part-2
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@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
You mean *in your opinion* it is harassment and not funny.
I think that, to the extent that it can be considered harassment, it is not undeserved, since those people work for META, and moreover I find the videoclip both enlightening and funny.
@sibrosan @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom What would you say you learned from watching this video?
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@fubaroque Precies. Het is geen moeilijke vraag. Als tiener besloot ik al niet voor onethische bedrijven te werken en dat heb ik nooit gedaan. Deze mensen kunnen dat ook doen. Anders zijn ze medeplichtig. Geld boven alles.
@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom@hembrow @fubaroque @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
Diese Entscheidung, die Sie als Jugendlicher getroffen haben bedeutet für jeden etwas anderes und hat sehr unterschiedliche Konzequenzen. Grundsätzliche Teile ich diesen Gedanken, aber wem die Wahl tatsächlich fehlt (das Überleben, ist keine Wahl), dem fehlt zumindest in diesem Moment die Alternative. Allerdings muss man sich trotzdem jederzeit nach einer Alternative umsehen, wenn es nicht mit dem Gewissen vertretbar ist. -
@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Damn, it's almost as if capitalism forces people to work for corporates they hate themselves. But that sure makes it okay to harass random workers!
@yuri
Es geht hier nicht um den Kapitalismus, nicht um Arbeiter die schikaniert werden, weil sie für den "bösen Kapitalismus" arbeiten, sondern um die Herstellung von Grundrechtsverletzenden Waren (Waffen, gegen Freiheits- und Menschenrechte) die sich die Gesellschaftskritik auch bei den herstellenden Mitarbeitern durch solche "Anspielungen" gefallen lassen müssen. Ja, belästigend für Mitarbeiter diese Blosstellung des Produktes durch sie zu ertragen, schlimmere Konzequenz für die Gesellschaft! -
Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )
@bitsoffreedom Meta does not want people to see this video. I repeat: Meta does NOT want people to see this video.
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Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )
@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
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@sibrosan @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom What would you say you learned from watching this video?
@prism @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
That the intended use of the pervert glasses that META sells constitutes, in general, a gross violation of people's privacy, even if the company pretends it's just a harmless, fun product, and that even META's own employees are painfully aware of that, when confronted with someone using it in their presence.
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@sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom volgende video naast Amazon warehouse:
V: waarom werk je voor Amazon? Ze support Israel!
A: weź kurwa uwal sie na frikandele, mam dzieci, które muszą jeść kiedy ty próbujesz zrobić ze mnie śmiecia dla wyświetleń na tiktoku@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Are you realising the Problem? If this one Video is harassment, what are those PervGlasses as product for our society? AI based corporate mass surveillance for marketing, AI Training and collaboration with Law Enforcement.
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@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Are you realising the Problem? If this one Video is harassment, what are those PervGlasses as product for our society? AI based corporate mass surveillance for marketing, AI Training and collaboration with Law Enforcement.
@fckusa @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I understand the problem pretty well and I also understand that such actions dont make any impact other than they give you small spark of joy when you scroll the feed of your social network.
If you want to change something, protest in front of government buildings and meta headquarters. Dont haras employees. Focus on people who make decisions.
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@bitsoffreedom Meta does not want people to see this video. I repeat: Meta does NOT want people to see this video.
@Roelmaalderink Substack wil hem vast wel! @bitsoffreedom
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@fckusa @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I understand the problem pretty well and I also understand that such actions dont make any impact other than they give you small spark of joy when you scroll the feed of your social network.
If you want to change something, protest in front of government buildings and meta headquarters. Dont haras employees. Focus on people who make decisions.
@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I agree on the protest with focus on the governments but even if every nation regulates this tech there won't be a coherent rulebook. We need to pressure every level of this industry accordingly to their role in this technology and employees working for Zuckerberg are a part of it. One of the minor parts but still. So I'm fine with this action. It's ok if you have your own view on that.
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They haven't been constantly harassed. They were made a little fun of, once, one morning, on their way to work. The guy had the decency to hide their face.
He hasn't been mean, it was light hearted humor.
I understand that we should understand that this is only a job, that this might be the only job available and so on. On the other hand, their job is making everybody else's life a little worse.
@MichelPatrice@jasette.facil.services @grayrattus@mastodon.socialI understand that we should understand that this is only a job, that this might be the only job available and so on
There's quite a few jobs in the Netherlands right now. Even in tech. But there are indeed very little jobs that make that kind of money, and that is what they're really interested in. They could still live a very good life making a lot less money and having some moral values, if they actually cared. -
@bitsoffreedom Meta does not want people to see this video. I repeat: Meta does NOT want people to see this video.
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@sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I see you still try to turn this into some kind of a joke but Im not joking. This is harassement and its not funny.
He recorded vulnerable employees and I think its pathetic.
@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I don't think these were the cleaning staff. Quite a difference between actual compensated developers and low wage Amazon workers which you're defending in a follow-up post.
If you want to instigate change, you need to poke at all different levels. Indeed not _just_ these minions, but _also_. When more people feel the hypocrisy in their work, they can bring about a shift for the better, if only ever so slightly.
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@MichelPatrice@jasette.facil.services @grayrattus@mastodon.social
I understand that we should understand that this is only a job, that this might be the only job available and so on
There's quite a few jobs in the Netherlands right now. Even in tech. But there are indeed very little jobs that make that kind of money, and that is what they're really interested in. They could still live a very good life making a lot less money and having some moral values, if they actually cared.@tyil @MichelPatrice "They could still live a very good life making a lot less money and having some moral values, if they actually cared." - if you have 3 kids, a mortgage 550 000 euros for 30 years and car in Amaterdam corporate jobs are the only options to cover expenses.
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Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )
@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I am not sure harassing the bottom line of a mega corporation with people who are just trying to make a living really surmounts to anything.
Its like going to the clothes spinners in Bangladesh for the things H&M or Primark are doing.
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@grayrattus
Managers are regular employees too. Don't think anyone can tell from their coats what their function in the company is.At least you agree that these glasses are useful for harassers.
@Heidentweet @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom people who come in with backpacks through the front door at companies at these scales are generally not managers.
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@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I am not sure harassing the bottom line of a mega corporation with people who are just trying to make a living really surmounts to anything.
Its like going to the clothes spinners in Bangladesh for the things H&M or Primark are doing.
@dantalion The spinners in Bangladesh are much more removed than this. This is more like "Stop harassing the bottom line ICE agents who are just putting in a day's work enacting the administration's fascist ideals."
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@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom its cool but why are you harrasing employees? xD their work is already shit as they work for META.
Its kind of like going to Booking and asking: "How do you like sponsoring genocide?!!".
I think it would be better if you hunt for manager of whole META branch or something. Regular employees work for money just as we all do.
@grayrattus Good point. They're just doing their jobs. That's a great defense that's worked before. @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
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