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I hate headlines like this.

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  • miamarktwo@syzito.xyzM miamarktwo@syzito.xyz

    @aegir @afewbugs It's classic Kirstie Allsop territory.

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    #64

    @MiaMarkTwo @aegir @afewbugs ah, the ol’ save money by making all your Christmas decorations. You’ll just need this die-cutting machine (£££), an array of artisanally aged woods (from one bespoke supplier in the Outer Hebrides) and stuff you’ve probably got laying about the house, like gold leaf and Swarovski crystals.

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    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

      I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

      Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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      #65

      @afewbugs The title is incredibly misleading. They didn't pack lunches as part of their job. It wasn't for charity, either.

      They simply brought their own food to work, which most people on this planet do, anyway, because you can't go out to lunch every single day.

      Journalism has become a BIG FAT JOKE.

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      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

        But I think the thing I really hate about these type of headlines is how they feed into victims blaming. People aren't poor because they don't have enough money for a decent life and it's really hard to claw your way over life's obstacles without money rather than having them knock you back further. They're poor because they spend too much money on sandwiches instead of making their own, the lazy idiots

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        #66

        Bloody good rant @afewbugs 👍

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        • squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.socialS squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.social

          @afewbugs to reiterate, saving £40k over 10 years is over £75 *a week*. Just on sandwiches between the two of them.

          Edit: they *saved* over £75 a week, so the initial lunches were higher

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          #67

          @SquirrelwithaninvisibleW @afewbugs So they saved £7.50/day per person on lunches - so back in 2009 they were spending that much on lunch. Each. Pret had an egg and cress sandwich for £1.50 back, then, and the 99p filter coffee. Pret. Not a supermarket takeaway section.

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          • squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.socialS squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.social

            @stevewfolds @afewbugs hey, I’m sure you worked hard, but the couple in the article had to wear *jumpers* in the winter, real sacrifice there. (/s just in case you didn’t realise)

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            #68

            @SquirrelwithaninvisibleW @afewbugs
            That house had an addition that we dated to 1860. Family’s place on East side of the state was built in 1790s. It had a Franklin stove in the fireplace when I lived there in 1949-50. Electricity had come in 1941.

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            • squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.socialS squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.social

              @keefeglise @afewbugs that’s a really good point. Even if we assume they’re mortgage-free, £1m won’t last their literal lifetimes. Have they effectively saved their way into cosplaying poverty for the next 40+ years…?

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              #69

              @SquirrelwithaninvisibleW @afewbugs They have a grift of course! So not actually retired. None of it adds up though.

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              • squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.socialS squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.social

                @nusher @afewbugs the article deliberately doesn’t mention the crucial detail of their income (just a vague ‘good’), whilst labouring on their novel money saving methods (assemble your own food! Jumpers!). We’ve been ragebaited.

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                #70

                @SquirrelwithaninvisibleW @nusher @afewbugs I don't know why they never tell us exactly how it was done - what is their income, what are their housing costs etc? The boast is about a number, so why not show us the other numbers? I wouldn't mind the headline so much if it didn't tell us something that can't possibly be true, then fail to show the actual truth (which, who knows, might be interesting and informative).

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                • goldfish@mastodon.greenG goldfish@mastodon.green

                  @SquirrelwithaninvisibleW @nusher @afewbugs I don't know why they never tell us exactly how it was done - what is their income, what are their housing costs etc? The boast is about a number, so why not show us the other numbers? I wouldn't mind the headline so much if it didn't tell us something that can't possibly be true, then fail to show the actual truth (which, who knows, might be interesting and informative).

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                  #71

                  @goldfish @nusher @afewbugs exactly.

                  It’s infuriatingly a nothingburger of an article with no merit (unless we cynically surmise it was just an ad for their YouTube).

                  Deliberate move to not show the workings as the ‘story’ (as if it is) would be barer.

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                  • debbie@mendeddrum.orgD debbie@mendeddrum.org

                    @afewbugs @mewsleah @therivercrow
                    Also due to Charity shops putting up prices, it's cheaper to buy new from temu etc.

                    Our shop has staged a mini rebellion and we now have a wired crate where all clothes are a £1 before we send them off for recycling if they don't sell.

                    When I started volunteering Oxfam specified the shops were to support the local community as well as making money, their policy has changed for the worst.

                    *Edited to remove the glaring typos

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                    #72

                    @debbie @afewbugs @mewsleah @therivercrow the "personal responsibility" diversion has disempowered people and discouraged improvement campaigns for centuries and is still an effective tactic today

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                    • keefeglise@mastodonapp.ukK keefeglise@mastodonapp.uk

                      @SquirrelwithaninvisibleW @afewbugs They have a grift of course! So not actually retired. None of it adds up though.

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                      #73

                      @keefeglise @afewbugs and *this* is part of them promoting it? Marketing ain’t their strong point.

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                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                        I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

                        Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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                        #74

                        @afewbugs You nailed it....😂

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                        • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                          I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

                          Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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                          #75

                          @afewbugs The headline might as well be "Life is so easy. Why are you a loser?"

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                          • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                            I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

                            Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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                            #76

                            @afewbugs 99% of the time the 'hard workers' from these bootstrap bullpoop articles are from a wealthy background too, so housing and student debt were never issues for them, and family connections opened doors.

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                            • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                              I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

                              Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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                              #77

                              @afewbugs tories learning to use computers is one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse

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                              • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

                                Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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                                #78

                                @afewbugs It's actually flat out impossible to make a million in an average lifetime at minimum wage even if you have zero expenses (free rent, free food). At minimum wage in the US it would take 66 years, pre-tax, putting you well above the life expectancy of 79 years to 84.

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                                • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                  I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

                                  Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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                                  #79

                                  @afewbugs Ah yes… the bourgeoisie pretending their "money saving for only 10 years enabled them to retire early" (or any other variant of this bullshit like "bought a house at 35, we don't pay rents anymore") AKA 3people dying at work is lies, all you have to do is too take the good decisions to be able to retire young" and "Poor people deserve to be poor because they don't know how to spend their money"…

                                  Fuck this bullshit and pack of lies…

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                                  • backfromthedud@mas.toB backfromthedud@mas.to

                                    @afewbugs Is that an AI image, or does he REALLY look that smug?

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                                    #80

                                    @BackFromTheDud @afewbugs He runs a life coaching business…

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                                    • jkb@gotosocial.jkbockstael.beJ jkb@gotosocial.jkbockstael.be

                                      @BackFromTheDud @afewbugs He runs a life coaching business…

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                                      #81

                                      @jkb Oh, so he DOES look that smug IRL. @afewbugs

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                                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                        I hate headlines like this. You read the article and discover she works in finance, he runs a life coaching business whatever that is, and they retired once their savings hit £1 million which didn't come from making their own sandwiches.

                                        Meanwhile out in the real world most of us have been bringing packed lunches to work since the 2010s at least and are still one unexpected vet bill away from a couple of months of home haircuts.

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                                        #82

                                        @afewbugs Generally speaking the filter in British journalism is pretty poor.
                                        You can see articles like these all the time. Basically a chain of click baits.

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                                        • raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.placeR raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @afewbugs It's actually flat out impossible to make a million in an average lifetime at minimum wage even if you have zero expenses (free rent, free food). At minimum wage in the US it would take 66 years, pre-tax, putting you well above the life expectancy of 79 years to 84.

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                                          #83

                                          @afewbugs Also fun numbers, to make that much in savings from "making lunch" they would have had to be spending just under $200/day on lunch to save that much in that short amount of time.

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