It's difficult to imagine that Linux Foundation, which has a branch called "Agentic AI foundation", platinum-sponsored by Anthropic, Google and OpenAI, would not be acting in the interests of the said platinum members.
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@simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina Torvalds is in on all of this. He's a techbro grifter who has sold off whatever morals he had to the aforementioned platinum sponsors.
@ariarhythmic @simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina @zzt A 1.5 million salary p.a. will do that to people.
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Outside of (the mostly non-developer) people on Mastodon there's no real discussion on whether LLMs are useful for software developer/cybersec etc or not. We (senior greybeards not influenced by whatever crap cloud AI mongers try to sell) simply use it where it brings benefits.
Torvalds too.
@troed @simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina
I don't agree with that characterisation at all.
I'm one of many developers who interact with this technology daily and find it wanting. I have to use it if I want to keep my job because management believe the marketing, but I am aghast at the prospect of supporting the stuff we're slopping out over the long term. Based on evaluating and understanding the output.Our work is bullshit anyway but I would never use it for something critical.
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@nina_kali_nina as a matter of interest, who has rights over the use of the name 'Linux'?
@simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina Torvalds
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@troed @simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina
I don't agree with that characterisation at all.
I'm one of many developers who interact with this technology daily and find it wanting. I have to use it if I want to keep my job because management believe the marketing, but I am aghast at the prospect of supporting the stuff we're slopping out over the long term. Based on evaluating and understanding the output.Our work is bullshit anyway but I would never use it for something critical.
Obviously it's not the right tool for what you're doing if you have to be forced to use it.
I don't have to use it - I do so because I tried and realized it was useful. I don't know a single developer forced to use it actually. All the other greybeards in my circles have come to the conclusion that LLMs are useful on their own volition.
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Outside of (the mostly non-developer) people on Mastodon there's no real discussion on whether LLMs are useful for software developer/cybersec etc or not. We (senior greybeards not influenced by whatever crap cloud AI mongers try to sell) simply use it where it brings benefits.
Torvalds too.
@troed @simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina @torvalds oh yes sure your bunch never had ethics to begin with.
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@troed @simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina @torvalds oh yes sure your bunch never had ethics to begin with.
I'm sure you need to tell yourself that rather than face cognitive dissonance. Or, you know, you put my globally unique name into a search engine and challenge your belief regarding my ethics.
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@nina_kali_nina Or we simply don't agree with those claims?
Most discussions I've had here with anti-AI fanatics show them to be as knowledgeable on the subject as "I've done my own research" anti vaxxers are about vaccines.
@troed @nina_kali_nina @simon_brooke trained unethical/illegal. Waste of limited resources. Utterly unsustainable but that's too hard to understand for you it seems.
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@troed @nina_kali_nina @simon_brooke trained unethical/illegal. Waste of limited resources. Utterly unsustainable but that's too hard to understand for you it seems.
️@TheOneDoc You just proved my point.
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Obviously it's not the right tool for what you're doing if you have to be forced to use it.
I don't have to use it - I do so because I tried and realized it was useful. I don't know a single developer forced to use it actually. All the other greybeards in my circles have come to the conclusion that LLMs are useful on their own volition.
@troed @simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina
That's nice, I know plenty of experienced folks who think it's a pile of shite and an accident waiting to happen, before they even get to the theft, DDOSing half the internet, ignoring software license (another timebomb)
And that it can have some use isn't the question, it's whether it's a net benefit, whether the dangers posed are harms caused are worth it.
"I find it useful". Ok, but that's not what's being discussed. I like ice cream.
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@troed @simon_brooke @nina_kali_nina
That's nice, I know plenty of experienced folks who think it's a pile of shite and an accident waiting to happen, before they even get to the theft, DDOSing half the internet, ignoring software license (another timebomb)
And that it can have some use isn't the question, it's whether it's a net benefit, whether the dangers posed are harms caused are worth it.
"I find it useful". Ok, but that's not what's being discussed. I like ice cream.
Or, you know, the contents of your post are simply not true.
You sound exactly like an antivaxxer does to someone who knows medicine.
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