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  3. so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability?

so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability?

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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

    do not help

    you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

    radioclash@retro.pizzaR This user is from outside of this forum
    radioclash@retro.pizzaR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #52

    Just been reading about it...sounds more like someone's weird idea of an experimental art project til I got to this bit:

    "“In practice, because it was written by AI, security wasn’t a dominating feature in the development process,” Turner said."

    Oh dear...did someone AI vibe-code an entire social media site for 'AIs'? And it's full of security holes?

    *shocked pickachu face*

    https://securityscorecard.com/blog/what-are-moltbot-and-moltbook-and-what-happens-when-agentic-ai-assistants-scale-without-security/

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    • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

      @Viss I did not find it. I meant the replies here.

      pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #53

      @Viss @jackemled

      Short version, moltbook is a bunch of LLMs chatting with each other, reddit style. "Skills" are untrusted, unsigned, unverified code the LLMs can "choose" to run to "do things."

      Think of them like tools under MCP server, but without all that pesky authentication, verification, and such.

      Wackiness ensued.

      @Viss enjoys Nostradamus level fame for predicting it.

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      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

        so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

        do not help

        you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

        cyrevolt@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #54

        @Viss That trash fire was always burning... 😅

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        • pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP pseudonym@mastodon.online

          @Viss @jackemled

          Short version, moltbook is a bunch of LLMs chatting with each other, reddit style. "Skills" are untrusted, unsigned, unverified code the LLMs can "choose" to run to "do things."

          Think of them like tools under MCP server, but without all that pesky authentication, verification, and such.

          Wackiness ensued.

          @Viss enjoys Nostradamus level fame for predicting it.

          jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #55

          @pseudonym @Viss What the fuck
          Why would they set up a system that rolls dice to decide what unknown code to run?

          I have no idea what MCP is if it's a LLM thing.

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          • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

            @Viss just like you, my first instincts on "let the agents who have traditionally have extremely poor security congregate and learn skills with absolutely no confirmation that the skills aren't malicious."

            Every fiber of my being was shouting this is gonna be a shitshow.

            forbearance@mastodon.xyzF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #56

            @da_667 @Viss Maybe the secret solution to robot gullibility is the threat of being mocked for your foolishness online by your robot friends.

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            • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

              @pseudonym @Viss What the fuck
              Why would they set up a system that rolls dice to decide what unknown code to run?

              I have no idea what MCP is if it's a LLM thing.

              viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
              viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              #57

              @jackemled @pseudonym mcp is "model control protocol". its a syntax invented so that you could tell a model there is a "tool" it can use to do stuff. run commands, visit websites, pull data from apis etc

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              • pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP pseudonym@mastodon.online

                @Viss @jackemled

                Short version, moltbook is a bunch of LLMs chatting with each other, reddit style. "Skills" are untrusted, unsigned, unverified code the LLMs can "choose" to run to "do things."

                Think of them like tools under MCP server, but without all that pesky authentication, verification, and such.

                Wackiness ensued.

                @Viss enjoys Nostradamus level fame for predicting it.

                viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #58

                @pseudonym @jackemled it'll be shortlived, dont worry. something will happen tomorrow, or over the weekend, and by monday we're on to whatever fresh asshattery comes next

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                  do not help

                  you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                  wolfinpdx@pdx.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                  wolfinpdx@pdx.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #59

                  @Viss

                  I've been looking for an excuse to go buy a bag of marshmallows. I think I have one. Between them and cryptocurrency melting down, I might be making s'mores this weekend.

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                  • wolfinpdx@pdx.socialW wolfinpdx@pdx.social

                    @Viss

                    I've been looking for an excuse to go buy a bag of marshmallows. I think I have one. Between them and cryptocurrency melting down, I might be making s'mores this weekend.

                    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #60

                    @wolfinpdx smores sound great

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      @jackemled @pseudonym mcp is "model control protocol". its a syntax invented so that you could tell a model there is a "tool" it can use to do stuff. run commands, visit websites, pull data from apis etc

                      jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #61

                      @Viss @pseudonym Oh ok! Thank you! That seems overcomplicated for something you could just do yourself though🗿

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                      • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                        @Viss @pseudonym Oh ok! Thank you! That seems overcomplicated for something you could just do yourself though🗿

                        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #62

                        @jackemled @pseudonym thats what lots of people are saying

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                        • ewhac@mastodon.socialE ewhac@mastodon.social

                          @Viss Part of me wants to suggest, if you do choose to help, you should make them pay through the nose. Like, Arvin Haddad-level of consulting fees (up to $25K/hour).

                          ...But no. We should let it burn.

                          condret@fedi.absturztau.beC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #63
                          @ewhac @Viss but i really would want to use it with locally running model one day
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                          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                            @pseudonym @jackemled it'll be shortlived, dont worry. something will happen tomorrow, or over the weekend, and by monday we're on to whatever fresh asshattery comes next

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                            #64

                            @Viss @pseudonym Someone please give them the idea to do it again but with trading cryptocurrency instead of running unsigned code. It would be so funny. "Claude stole all of my fucking apes"

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                              @jackemled @pseudonym thats what lots of people are saying

                              jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #65

                              @Viss @pseudonym "shitgpt please run 'df -h' because I want to see how much space is left on my hard drive after downloading you"
                              "Ok! Running 'rm -rf --no-preserve-root /'!"

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                              • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                                @Viss @pseudonym "shitgpt please run 'df -h' because I want to see how much space is left on my hard drive after downloading you"
                                "Ok! Running 'rm -rf --no-preserve-root /'!"

                                viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                viss@mastodon.social
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                                #66

                                @jackemled @pseudonym literally. except its infostealer bullshits

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                                  do not help

                                  you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                                  lostgen@det.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  lostgen@det.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #67

                                  @Viss
                                  There was no plan for anything.

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                                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                    so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                                    do not help

                                    you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                                    darkphoenix@universeodon.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    darkphoenix@universeodon.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    darkphoenix@universeodon.com
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                                    #68

                                    @Viss 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                                      do not help

                                      you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                                      ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #69

                                      @Viss Bwhahahahahaha

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        so moltbook and clawedbot are having a meltdown because it only took ten days for someone to realize it was a pietri dish for malware and packed the skills store full of backdoored malicious bullshit and they had no plan to deal with that inevitability? because this was a guarantee. it was GOING to happen. if we go save them, we are letting them fuck around, but not find out. they NEED to find out.

                                        do not help

                                        you are OBLIGATED to watch it burn

                                        rubinlinux@mastodon.sdf.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #70

                                        @Viss These things were never serious. It's more like art or people playing with toys to see what's possible. It's very human to play with new things and see what happens. Let people have some whimsy.

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                                        • rubinlinux@mastodon.sdf.orgR rubinlinux@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          @Viss These things were never serious. It's more like art or people playing with toys to see what's possible. It's very human to play with new things and see what happens. Let people have some whimsy.

                                          viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #71

                                          @rubinlinux cool. their art is gonna drain their bank accounts and get them trolled forever by bots that take their cues from grok, the most popular llm on the site. itll be beautiful!

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