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  3. The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

    This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

    Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

    https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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    #4

    @randahl Amazing what's possible if people want to make something happen, well done.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

      This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

      Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

      https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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      #5

      Next step, cash money is no longer accepted, because the new system has so many “advantages”.
      Which means that banks and government gain total insight and control of everyone’s expenditures.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

        This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

        Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

        https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

        janantos@f.czJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @randahl this needs to spread cross whole EU, we will be waiting for digital Euro forever

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

          This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

          Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

          https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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          #7

          @randahl Airplane inflight card payments have been doing this for ages. So nothing new technically as far as I can tell.

          randahl@mastodon.socialR jurkis@mastodon.socialJ michael@westergaard.socialM 3 Replies Last reply
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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

            This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

            Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

            https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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            #8

            @randahl
            Fine. One question though: still Mastercard or Visa or Danish banking system?

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            • harrysintonen@infosec.exchangeH harrysintonen@infosec.exchange

              @randahl Airplane inflight card payments have been doing this for ages. So nothing new technically as far as I can tell.

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              #9

              @harrysintonen in a world where Russian hackers are constantly trying to shut down essential digital infrastructure in Europe, I this is indeed both new at our stores and very, very important.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

                This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

                Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

                https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

                oliver@metalized.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @randahl This must be the proper digitalization they're talking about all the time here in Germany... Well done, my favorite emigration countrx, #Denmark! ❤️

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

                  This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

                  Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

                  https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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                  #11

                  @randahl That's just a parallel network that can save 7 days of activity, after seventh day if you make a transaction you'll get an error message. Pretty sure say used already made infrastructure.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

                    This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

                    Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

                    https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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                    #12

                    @randahl Are they running the infrastructure independent of the US? Or is it like the EU creating a payment system that still runs on AWS?

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                    • harrysintonen@infosec.exchangeH harrysintonen@infosec.exchange

                      @randahl Airplane inflight card payments have been doing this for ages. So nothing new technically as far as I can tell.

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                      #13

                      @harrysintonen @randahl We had such type of bank cards (issued by bank Snoras) in Lithuania at about 1993-2010. Then Snoras bankrupted.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

                        This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

                        Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

                        https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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                        #14
                        Credit card payments are not (newly) able to do this. Debit cards are now newly able to do this ("betalingskort" = "debit card"). Credit cards could (in most cases) already do this as you buy on credit. Debit cards always check the bank balance and therefore needed an internet connection.
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                        • jurkis@mastodon.socialJ jurkis@mastodon.social

                          @harrysintonen @randahl We had such type of bank cards (issued by bank Snoras) in Lithuania at about 1993-2010. Then Snoras bankrupted.

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                          @Jurkis Note that this is on the payment system side, rather than specific card. So any card will work.

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                          • harrysintonen@infosec.exchangeH harrysintonen@infosec.exchange

                            @randahl Airplane inflight card payments have been doing this for ages. So nothing new technically as far as I can tell.

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                            #16
                            Also for debit cards? (The OP is incorrect; this is for debit cards, not credit cards.)

                            There's a huge difference – credit cards can work off-line as they do not need to check the account balance, but debit cards needed an internet connection to check the amount to be deducted is available.

                            They very likely handle debit cards the same way: by just allowing people to spend for a week without checking the balance. It used to be possible using Danish debit cards as well but was removed for security reasons (financial security, not security security).
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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

                              This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

                              Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

                              https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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                              #17

                              @randahl The next step is getting rid of non-european data transfer of card payments.

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                              • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
                                Also for debit cards? (The OP is incorrect; this is for debit cards, not credit cards.)

                                There's a huge difference – credit cards can work off-line as they do not need to check the account balance, but debit cards needed an internet connection to check the amount to be deducted is available.

                                They very likely handle debit cards the same way: by just allowing people to spend for a week without checking the balance. It used to be possible using Danish debit cards as well but was removed for security reasons (financial security, not security security).
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                                #18

                                Sure. The same thing is coming to other nordic countries and Estonia, too. This was announced in May 2025 already. See https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/nordics-estonia-plan-offline-card-payment-back-up-if-internet-cut-2025-05-07/

                                Sweden rolls out their system by July 2026. https://www.riksbank.se/en-gb/press-and-published/notices-and-press-releases/press-releases/2025/offline-card-payments-should-be-possible-no-later-than-1-july-2026/

                                Riksbank also has a some explanation how it works: https://www.riksbank.se/en-gb/payments--cash/payment-preparedness/offline-payments/

                                It should be noted that this is more of a regulatory change. Technical aspects of offline payments have been in the systems since for a very long time.

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

                                  This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

                                  Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

                                  https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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                                  #19

                                  @randahl Great idea

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    The central bank of Denmark, Nationalbanken, today announced its new offline payment system which means Danes will be able to pay digitally at the store — even when the internet is down.

                                    This means both credit card payments and cellphone payments go through at the counter up to 7 days into an internet breakdown, because of a new technological solution which is being rolled out at grocery stores first.

                                    Pharmacies will be added to the system later this year.

                                    https://via.ritzau.dk/pressemeddelelse/14873884?lang=da&amp%3BpublisherId=13561853

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                                    #20

                                    @randahl i’m troubled by the wider implications

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                                    • harrysintonen@infosec.exchangeH harrysintonen@infosec.exchange

                                      @Jurkis Note that this is on the payment system side, rather than specific card. So any card will work.

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                                      #21
                                      Not any card. Danish cards. Probably mostly a regulatory thing: Danish banks consent to the risk of 7 days of outstanding payments on debit cards, but foreign banks do not.
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                                      • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
                                        Not any card. Danish cards. Probably mostly a regulatory thing: Danish banks consent to the risk of 7 days of outstanding payments on debit cards, but foreign banks do not.
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                                        #22

                                        @michael @Jurkis Sure. Similar limitations likely apply in each country individually to limit fraud. What I meant with there was that you don't need some kind of a special card for it to work. The change applies to existing cards, that is.

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                                          #23

                                          @sinjut
                                          The "flyswatter" in classic Danish slang
                                          @randahl

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