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  • michal@spondr.czM michal@spondr.cz

    @jan @Razemix @libreoffice Most companies already use Microsoft's cloud services. This won't be a problem for them.

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    #82

    @michal @Razemix @libreoffice then they use MS Office, not LibreOffice, right?

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    • jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ jan@social.dytrych.cloud

      @michal @Razemix @libreoffice then they use MS Office, not LibreOffice, right?

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      #83

      @jan @Razemix @libreoffice Price might be the main factor. But once companies have to use something that’s outdated by today’s standards, it won’t matter that it’s free. Employees will start complaining and refuse to work with something from the Stone Age.

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      • michal@spondr.czM michal@spondr.cz

        @jan @Razemix @libreoffice Price might be the main factor. But once companies have to use something that’s outdated by today’s standards, it won’t matter that it’s free. Employees will start complaining and refuse to work with something from the Stone Age.

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        #84

        @michal Please be mindful about language used to evaluate other people's legitimate goals and efforts, even if those don't align with yours. Thanks.

        @jan @Razemix @libreoffice

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        • michal@spondr.czM michal@spondr.cz

          @jan @Razemix @libreoffice Price might be the main factor. But once companies have to use something that’s outdated by today’s standards, it won’t matter that it’s free. Employees will start complaining and refuse to work with something from the Stone Age.

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          #85

          @michal @jan @Razemix @libreoffice sorry, but this gave me a really good laugh. I've been out of school for 15 years and I'm yet to see an employee who refuse to work with software because it's like from the stone age. 🙂
          People at Czech Post work with DOS-like terminals, we work with Oracle ERP, which looks like from the Win2000 era... People work with the tools they are given by the employer and they're paid for it. This isn't a consumer market.

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          • sesivany@social.vivaldi.netS sesivany@social.vivaldi.net

            @michal @jan @Razemix @libreoffice sorry, but this gave me a really good laugh. I've been out of school for 15 years and I'm yet to see an employee who refuse to work with software because it's like from the stone age. 🙂
            People at Czech Post work with DOS-like terminals, we work with Oracle ERP, which looks like from the Win2000 era... People work with the tools they are given by the employer and they're paid for it. This isn't a consumer market.

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            #86

            @sesivany @michal @Razemix @libreoffice I do agree, and I see exactly the same in health care. We do try to make our software design nice and current, but other companies do not really care that much... Does it work? Yes, then don't complain how it looks.

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            • sesivany@social.vivaldi.netS sesivany@social.vivaldi.net

              @Razemix @michal @libreoffice We have had Google Docs full of AI at work for months and frankly the only useful feature I've found is help with Sheets formulas. I wanted to use it for presentation templates, but it was rather sour experience.
              Hint: all of those features came enabled by default, no one asked me as a user.

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              #87

              @sesivany @Razemix @michal @libreoffice Best future of google docs? That any Amrican can look what you do (trump his Cloud act and Patriot act), and it is probably sold to other companies too, where you have no idea from what they do with your data. Just avoid american companies if data is stored in the cloud.

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              • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

                @Garonenur @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig

                I am speaking from experience, not theory

                It is not as simple as "LLMs write better code". But from now on the best code will be aided by LLMs in its construction. That is true now

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                #88

                @worik @Garonenur @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig I don't come on Mastodon for grandiose pronouncements based on one individual's experience.

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                • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @worik

                  Of course not. Under no circumstances will I allow one of those things to execute arbitrary commands on my machine without review. I'm not completely insane.

                  @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig

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                  #89

                  @argv_minus_one @worik @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig "Thorough" is the last thing I associate with commands produced by a random text generator.

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                  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                    Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                    https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                    #LibreOffice #Technology

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                    #90

                    @libreoffice
                    No added sugars
                    No palm oil
                    No gluten
                    No AI 👌

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                    • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #91

                      @libreoffice fantastic! Now I just need libre office to stop crashing when I open it 😔

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                      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig

                        It's still coded using AI, same as what Debian just decided to do.

                        https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/70c7f6ba49cfc506fc47dac32af98976ecf33cf8

                        https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/42cdc47554fa746baa863860143fc81fe8bb1c80

                        https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/7c0d875aca090de4f4d1164578683c0b7e0c6040

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                        #92

                        @argv_minus_one @libreoffice

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                        • cosmin@social.linux.pizzaC cosmin@social.linux.pizza

                          @argv_minus_one @libreoffice

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                          #93

                          @cosmin @argv_minus_one Ah, another high-quality Mastodon discussion. Again: No core developers use LLMs. We rely on contributions from the wider community and don't explicitly list tools people can't use – but we do require people disclose when they use LLMs and generally discourage the practice. We carefully review submissions by contributors to make sure the code quality is good and that the patch author understands their own code. LLMs are prohibited for students. That is not "slop".

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                          • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                            @libreoffice fantastic! Now I just need libre office to stop crashing when I open it 😔

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                            #94

                            @CorvidCrone Obviously, that shouldn't be happening, but without any details about your setup (computer type, operating system, LibreOffice version etc.) it's hard for us to say what the problem could be...

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                            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                              Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                              https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                              #LibreOffice #Technology

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                              #95

                              @libreoffice In fact, it's the other way around: AI has built-in you
                              https://simonwillison.net/2026/Sep/1/codex-libreoffice/

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                              • grvsmth@lingo.lolG grvsmth@lingo.lol

                                @worik @Garonenur @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig I don't come on Mastodon for grandiose pronouncements based on one individual's experience.

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                                #96

                                @grvsmth @Garonenur @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig

                                Golly!

                                What do you expect when communicating?

                                It is a shame if you cannot tolerate disagreement

                                I have no problem with your opinions and POV, I disagree with some of it

                                For bubbles of agreement I would have stayed on Facebook!

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                                • grvsmth@lingo.lolG grvsmth@lingo.lol

                                  @argv_minus_one @worik @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig "Thorough" is the last thing I associate with commands produced by a random text generator.

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                                  #97

                                  @grvsmth @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig

                                  I do urge you to experiment with them. It is a mischaracterisation to call them "random text generators".

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                                  • garonenur@rollenspiel.socialG garonenur@rollenspiel.social

                                    @worik @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig 🤣🤣🤣

                                    How can the: "here is the stochastic average of the training data" be of better quality?
                                    That is not how LLMs work.

                                    The code quality is shit, especially without rigorous human supervision.

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                                    #98

                                    @Garonenur @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig

                                    Your comment about their output being shit is two years out of date

                                    These days the code they produce is often very good.

                                    Times are changing, and the development since 2022 has been astounding

                                    The last nine months alone has seen huge advances.

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                                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                      Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                                      https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                                      #LibreOffice #Technology

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                                      #99

                                      @libreoffice https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/08/21/there-is-no-best-interface/ Was this blog post written with the help of AI?

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                                      • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

                                        @grvsmth @Garonenur @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig

                                        Golly!

                                        What do you expect when communicating?

                                        It is a shame if you cannot tolerate disagreement

                                        I have no problem with your opinions and POV, I disagree with some of it

                                        For bubbles of agreement I would have stayed on Facebook!

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                                        #100

                                        @worik

                                        What you said was a factual assertion, not an opinion. One that is not supported by available evidence.

                                        Nor is it supported even by theory. LLMs work by making predictions based on statistical analysis of what humans have previously done. Therefore they cannot surpass even the average human, let alone the best.

                                        Which is why I say your admiration of LLMs speaks not highly of them, but poorly of you. It proves that you're below average.

                                        @grvsmth @Garonenur @wobweger @moskitokoenig

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                                        • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          @worik

                                          What you said was a factual assertion, not an opinion. One that is not supported by available evidence.

                                          Nor is it supported even by theory. LLMs work by making predictions based on statistical analysis of what humans have previously done. Therefore they cannot surpass even the average human, let alone the best.

                                          Which is why I say your admiration of LLMs speaks not highly of them, but poorly of you. It proves that you're below average.

                                          @grvsmth @Garonenur @wobweger @moskitokoenig

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                                          #101

                                          @worik

                                          And your assertion was indeed quite grandiose.

                                          “From now on the best code will be aided by LLMs in its construction. That is true now.” That's literally what you said. Unadulterated arrogance, supported only by vague claims of professional experience that I'm fairly sure you don't actually have (because if you did, you'd have brought receipts).

                                          Perhaps that sort of behavior was welcome on Facebook, but you'll find little love for it here.

                                          @grvsmth @Garonenur @wobweger @moskitokoenig

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