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  • maddiem4@raphus.socialM maddiem4@raphus.social

    @cwebber The morally correct thing for these Italian businesses to do is tell the U.S. to piss off, ideally with the words "we don't negotiate with terrorists."

    This is a time for institutions around the world to consider real fucking seriously if they want their participation in U.S. clown-hegemony to be a precedent going forward as we completely descend into a mad fascist cult around a geriatric narcissist.

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    #13

    @MaddieM4 @cwebber the problem is that most European banks are too scared of pissing off the US to not immediately debank you for being sanctioned.

    Now, “As a matter of principle, the EU considers the extra-territorial application of sanctions contrary to international law.”, and
    they can just overturn foreign sanctions and prohibit their enforcement, but last time I checked they didn't use this for the Hague ICC judges so I doubt they would use it for anyone else.

    lunareclipse@snug.moeL davey_cakes@mastodon.ieD milja@social.netdynamics.euM 3 Replies Last reply
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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

      But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

      I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

      EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

      EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

      quasit@beige.partyQ This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #14

      @cwebber

      I wish we HAD some far-left networks! I'd join.

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      • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

        @MaddieM4 @cwebber the problem is that most European banks are too scared of pissing off the US to not immediately debank you for being sanctioned.

        Now, “As a matter of principle, the EU considers the extra-territorial application of sanctions contrary to international law.”, and
        they can just overturn foreign sanctions and prohibit their enforcement, but last time I checked they didn't use this for the Hague ICC judges so I doubt they would use it for anyone else.

        lunareclipse@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        lunareclipse@snug.moe
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #15

        @MaddieM4 @cwebber even if the EU intervened, IIUC they will still be banned from almost everything you need to participate in society:
        - google android smartphones
        - apple ios smartphones
        - accounts on FAANG services including basically all mainstream social media

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

          But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

          I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

          EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

          EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

          hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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          hsza@social.tudbut.de
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #16

          @cwebber rapid denormalization of any respect for magastan is overdue

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

            But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

            I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

            EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

            EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

            scaletheory@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #17

            @cwebber

            "there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now."

            There will be a time, "I guarantee it" if these overlords aren't stopped, plan on it being very real. They're doing whatever they like acting like a mob with no restraints, as they have NONE.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

              But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

              I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

              EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

              EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

              puck@sfba.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #18

              @cwebber
              This scares the beejeebers out of me. If iwanted to donate bail money to a granny in England who was arrested for protesting the Palestine genocide, I could be arrested for abetting a terrorist? And you can bet they'd make an example of me to scare other people into inaction.

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                liaizon@social.wake.stL This user is from outside of this forum
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                liaizon@social.wake.st
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #19

                @cwebber thank you for directly posting about this. I think everyone here really needs to rekon with this situation cause it effects us really deeply.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                  But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                  I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                  EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                  EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                  wjmaggos@liberal.cityW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wjmaggos@liberal.city
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #20

                  @cwebber

                  decentralized media thwarts the power of money (or force) to shape public opinion. the web gave us speech, fedi does it for attention. of course we're a threat.

                  what annoys me is that we're not taking advantage of our power here. most would rather keep their nice but conservative relatives away than grow by focusing moderation only on harassment. we've somehow managed to browse a web full of shitty sites for decades and it didn't become a Nazi bar.

                  harrumph.

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                  • quasit@beige.partyQ quasit@beige.party

                    @cwebber

                    I wish we HAD some far-left networks! I'd join.

                    foolishowl@social.coopF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #21

                    @Quasit @cwebber I don't know of any as extensive as Autistici/Inventati, but there are a lot of smaller projects that do things like provide a suite of Internet services. Like, I was looking for a Matrix server, and found a lot of such projects that way.

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                    • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

                      @MaddieM4 @cwebber the problem is that most European banks are too scared of pissing off the US to not immediately debank you for being sanctioned.

                      Now, “As a matter of principle, the EU considers the extra-territorial application of sanctions contrary to international law.”, and
                      they can just overturn foreign sanctions and prohibit their enforcement, but last time I checked they didn't use this for the Hague ICC judges so I doubt they would use it for anyone else.

                      davey_cakes@mastodon.ieD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      davey_cakes@mastodon.ie
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #22

                      @lunareclipse @cwebber @MaddieM4

                      online transactions are a disaster if you're blocked from the few big credit card companies too

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                      • toxomat@social.tchncs.deT toxomat@social.tchncs.de

                        @cwebber
                        Assuming this is becoming a trend in the western world that's accelerating toward the extreme right. What's the strategy for the technical left? Become more decentralized, teach setting up ad-hoc systems? Become more hidden?

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                        #23
                        @toxomat @cwebber There is no viable technical solution to outright criminalized distributed or decentralized communication that is not practically incapable of acquiring new members without explicit introduction.

                        Steganography, use of unmonitored channels, asynchronicity and strong delay tolerance would help avoid or mitigate detection or tracking, but they also effectively guarantee bleeding off membership the entire time.

                        The solution cannot be solely technical.
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                        • faraiwe@mstdn.socialF faraiwe@mstdn.social

                          @cwebber "People should be able to communicate without first surrendering themselves to corporations or governments."

                          Anyone who defies the fascist machinery of surveillance and oppression is an enemy of the Turd Reich.

                          It's a badge of honor, of sorts.

                          Everyone who values privacy and civil liberties/freedom should perk their ears and heed this case.

                          We are all Autistici/Inventati.

                          Tante grazie, @cavallette

                          #TurdReich #AutisticiInventati #USPol

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                          lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #24

                          @faraiwe

                          Oh, I love the "turd reich" label !
                          So apt !

                          @cwebber @cavallette

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                            But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                            I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                            EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                            EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #25

                            @cwebber fun fact about noblogs.org is that (Wordpress) ActivityPub is one of the few pre-installed plugins.

                            So there are likely a good number of blogs already federating with this space

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                              But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                              I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                              EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                              EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                              sberson@app.wafrn.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              sberson@app.wafrn.net
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #26

                              @cwebber@social.coop

                              It's truly ironic, because these days the US gov often operates as a terrorist organization.

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                pattykimura@beige.party
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #27

                                @cwebber Truth is the enemy of fascism, dictatorship, authoritarians, oligarchs.

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                  But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                  I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                  EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                  EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                                  galad@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #28

                                  @cwebber You are correct, their legal strategy is broadly to define all opposition as terrorism. They are attempting to create a narrative that there is an international leftist conspiracy against the USA. It’s a means to then attempt to connect domestic political groups to this international “conspiracy”. That then serves as a pretext to target them with the state apparatus originally designed for the war on terror.

                                  They’ve been wanting to do something like this since the 1980s.

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                    But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                    I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                    EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                    EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                    notthatkindofdoctor@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #29

                                    @cwebber
                                    Can anyone file suit against this? I want to support them financially but apparently that would be a federal felony now?

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                      But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                      I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                      EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                      EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                      lazyb0y@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #30

                                      @cwebber

                                      they already stated recently they want to punish criticism against capitalism, and being on fediverse is even not just criticism but a plain attack by not giving meta etc. your data

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                                      • foolishowl@social.coopF foolishowl@social.coop

                                        @Quasit @cwebber I don't know of any as extensive as Autistici/Inventati, but there are a lot of smaller projects that do things like provide a suite of Internet services. Like, I was looking for a Matrix server, and found a lot of such projects that way.

                                        regendans@todon.euR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #31

                                        @foolishowl @Quasit @cwebber Looks like there's still some choice ? https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                          But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                          I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                          EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                          EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                          notavi10@critter.cafe
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #32

                                          @cwebber it doesnt matter because its decentralized. a hacker collective isnt organized like a terrorist group. its the same reason why the govt has been unable to attack antifa, dispite also being considered a terrorist group by the administration

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