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The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

    But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

    I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

    EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

    EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

    scaletheory@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @cwebber

    "there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now."

    There will be a time, "I guarantee it" if these overlords aren't stopped, plan on it being very real. They're doing whatever they like acting like a mob with no restraints, as they have NONE.

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

      But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

      I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

      EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

      EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

      puck@sfba.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @cwebber
      This scares the beejeebers out of me. If iwanted to donate bail money to a granny in England who was arrested for protesting the Palestine genocide, I could be arrested for abetting a terrorist? And you can bet they'd make an example of me to scare other people into inaction.

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

        But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

        I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

        EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

        EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

        liaizon@social.wake.stL This user is from outside of this forum
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        liaizon@social.wake.st
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #19

        @cwebber thank you for directly posting about this. I think everyone here really needs to rekon with this situation cause it effects us really deeply.

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

          But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

          I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

          EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

          EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

          wjmaggos@liberal.cityW This user is from outside of this forum
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          wjmaggos@liberal.city
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          #20

          @cwebber

          decentralized media thwarts the power of money (or force) to shape public opinion. the web gave us speech, fedi does it for attention. of course we're a threat.

          what annoys me is that we're not taking advantage of our power here. most would rather keep their nice but conservative relatives away than grow by focusing moderation only on harassment. we've somehow managed to browse a web full of shitty sites for decades and it didn't become a Nazi bar.

          harrumph.

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          • quasit@beige.partyQ quasit@beige.party

            @cwebber

            I wish we HAD some far-left networks! I'd join.

            foolishowl@social.coopF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @Quasit @cwebber I don't know of any as extensive as Autistici/Inventati, but there are a lot of smaller projects that do things like provide a suite of Internet services. Like, I was looking for a Matrix server, and found a lot of such projects that way.

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            • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

              @MaddieM4 @cwebber the problem is that most European banks are too scared of pissing off the US to not immediately debank you for being sanctioned.

              Now, “As a matter of principle, the EU considers the extra-territorial application of sanctions contrary to international law.”, and
              they can just overturn foreign sanctions and prohibit their enforcement, but last time I checked they didn't use this for the Hague ICC judges so I doubt they would use it for anyone else.

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              davey_cakes@mastodon.ie
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              #22

              @lunareclipse @cwebber @MaddieM4

              online transactions are a disaster if you're blocked from the few big credit card companies too

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              • toxomat@social.tchncs.deT toxomat@social.tchncs.de

                @cwebber
                Assuming this is becoming a trend in the western world that's accelerating toward the extreme right. What's the strategy for the technical left? Become more decentralized, teach setting up ad-hoc systems? Become more hidden?

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                #23
                @toxomat @cwebber There is no viable technical solution to outright criminalized distributed or decentralized communication that is not practically incapable of acquiring new members without explicit introduction.

                Steganography, use of unmonitored channels, asynchronicity and strong delay tolerance would help avoid or mitigate detection or tracking, but they also effectively guarantee bleeding off membership the entire time.

                The solution cannot be solely technical.
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                • faraiwe@mstdn.socialF faraiwe@mstdn.social

                  @cwebber "People should be able to communicate without first surrendering themselves to corporations or governments."

                  Anyone who defies the fascist machinery of surveillance and oppression is an enemy of the Turd Reich.

                  It's a badge of honor, of sorts.

                  Everyone who values privacy and civil liberties/freedom should perk their ears and heed this case.

                  We are all Autistici/Inventati.

                  Tante grazie, @cavallette

                  #TurdReich #AutisticiInventati #USPol

                  lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
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                  #24

                  @faraiwe

                  Oh, I love the "turd reich" label !
                  So apt !

                  @cwebber @cavallette

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                    But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                    I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                    EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                    EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                    django@social.coopD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #25

                    @cwebber fun fact about noblogs.org is that (Wordpress) ActivityPub is one of the few pre-installed plugins.

                    So there are likely a good number of blogs already federating with this space

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                      But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                      I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                      EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                      EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                      sberson@app.wafrn.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sberson@app.wafrn.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sberson@app.wafrn.net
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #26

                      @cwebber@social.coop

                      It's truly ironic, because these days the US gov often operates as a terrorist organization.

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                        But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                        I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                        EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                        EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                        pattykimura@beige.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #27

                        @cwebber Truth is the enemy of fascism, dictatorship, authoritarians, oligarchs.

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                          But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                          I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                          EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                          EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                          galad@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          galad@mastodon.social
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                          #28

                          @cwebber You are correct, their legal strategy is broadly to define all opposition as terrorism. They are attempting to create a narrative that there is an international leftist conspiracy against the USA. It’s a means to then attempt to connect domestic political groups to this international “conspiracy”. That then serves as a pretext to target them with the state apparatus originally designed for the war on terror.

                          They’ve been wanting to do something like this since the 1980s.

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                            But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                            I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                            EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                            EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                            notthatkindofdoctor@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            notthatkindofdoctor@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #29

                            @cwebber
                            Can anyone file suit against this? I want to support them financially but apparently that would be a federal felony now?

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                              But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                              I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                              EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                              EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                              lazyb0y@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #30

                              @cwebber

                              they already stated recently they want to punish criticism against capitalism, and being on fediverse is even not just criticism but a plain attack by not giving meta etc. your data

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                              • foolishowl@social.coopF foolishowl@social.coop

                                @Quasit @cwebber I don't know of any as extensive as Autistici/Inventati, but there are a lot of smaller projects that do things like provide a suite of Internet services. Like, I was looking for a Matrix server, and found a lot of such projects that way.

                                regendans@todon.euR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                regendans@todon.eu
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                                #31

                                @foolishowl @Quasit @cwebber Looks like there's still some choice ? https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                  But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                  I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                  EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                  EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                                  notavi10@critter.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  notavi10@critter.cafe
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                                  #32

                                  @cwebber it doesnt matter because its decentralized. a hacker collective isnt organized like a terrorist group. its the same reason why the govt has been unable to attack antifa, dispite also being considered a terrorist group by the administration

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                                  • regendans@todon.euR regendans@todon.eu

                                    @foolishowl @Quasit @cwebber Looks like there's still some choice ? https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

                                    foolishowl@social.coopF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    foolishowl@social.coop
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                                    #33

                                    @regendans @Quasit @cwebber While defending Autistici/Inventati in particular is important, part of what's worrisome is that the US's indirect attack on it -- "Who will rid me of this troublesome priest" -- could be extended to a lot of projects. Consider what a problem it would be if it became practically impossible for LetsEncrypt to operate, for instance.

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                                    • notavi10@critter.cafeN notavi10@critter.cafe

                                      @cwebber it doesnt matter because its decentralized. a hacker collective isnt organized like a terrorist group. its the same reason why the govt has been unable to attack antifa, dispite also being considered a terrorist group by the administration

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                                      tribactam@social.vivaldi.net
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                                      #34

                                      @notavi10 @cwebber

                                      the fact that "antifa" is clearly not an identifiable group of people (unlike the nazis) just shows how stupid these people are. You would have thought that with their two brain cells they could have arrived at antifa = short for antifascist.

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                                      • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

                                        @MaddieM4 @cwebber even if the EU intervened, IIUC they will still be banned from almost everything you need to participate in society:
                                        - google android smartphones
                                        - apple ios smartphones
                                        - accounts on FAANG services including basically all mainstream social media

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                                        #35

                                        @lunareclipse @cwebber @MaddieM4 Might be a good time for these societies to finally realize that participating in them shouldn't require all this technology, similarly how it didn't require it 30 years ago.

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                                        • aronowski@furry.engineerA aronowski@furry.engineer

                                          @lunareclipse @cwebber @MaddieM4 Might be a good time for these societies to finally realize that participating in them shouldn't require all this technology, similarly how it didn't require it 30 years ago.

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                                          #36

                                          @aronowski @lunareclipse @cwebber True. And from what I've read from that Cavalette article, I'd expect the A/I crowd to already be pretty well along in the whole "living with a minimum of enFAANGlement" thing.

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