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  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

    I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

    But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

    I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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    nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
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    #36

    @urlyman Very much so. The human mind seems to gravitate far too much towards those in the spotlight, ignoring lots of great stuff in the shadows.

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    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

      I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

      But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

      I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

      wtl@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #37

      @urlyman @ElbowsUpforDigitalSovereignty Agreed.

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      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

        I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

        But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

        I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

        p__x@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @urlyman in my field, people made the Xodus right after the election and the Bsky handles started popping up after presentations. I personally never understood the love for Twitter, it's inundated w/ bots, and now Bsky just appeals as a Twitter copy in its inevitable prenazification phase.

        There's a lot less engagement on Mastodon, and the federation of comments is quite clunky. But it takes me back to the internet before The Algorithm, and I'd rather interact with 5 humans, than argue w bots.

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        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

          I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

          But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

          I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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          losefriendsandalienatepeople@mastodon.social
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          #39

          I use open vibe and connect to Bluesky, Nostr, and Mastodon in one app. They just added Tumblr.
          It's a good solution

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          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

            I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

            But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

            I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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            fruitcakesareyum@mastodon.social
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            #40

            @urlyman

            I go back and forth in most places, as a random unknown. I'm not a very social person but I don't have anyone to talk to offline. So I really do need social media, or I'll lose my mind.

            BS is absolute chaos, I never understand how to use it.

            But here, every time without fail I can jump into a conversation on my first day, and people reply or fav (as read receipts) my words. And I don't have to think most of them are bots, so it makes me feel seen.

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            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

              I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

              But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

              I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

              wesley@theatl.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @urlyman I hop between Mastodon and Bluesky. Personally I find value in them both.

              There are a lot more big accounts posting on Bluesky, but I enjoy the slower paced more community-based interactions of Mastodon. I also like that Mastodon allows for a lot more nuance with larger character limits even getting into more long form posts (such as the OP which is fairly long and would have been a lengthy thread on bsky) which makes for better discussions.

              In my experience Bluesky is better for low-effort short posts and broadcasting from large accounts to a wider audience whereas Mastodon is better for nuanced discussions and has a more level playing field between large and small accounts.

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              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

                el_coyote@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                el_coyote@mastodon.social
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                #42

                @urlyman I was in BlueSky for a while too…. but it’s too political, and also quite discriminative of single fathers. If you have NO political opinion there, you’re a nobody, who nobody trusts. You’re considered a “red flag” if you don’t support the left. Other platforms consider you a “red flag “ if you don’t support the right.

                I love the Fediverse! It gives the finger to both.

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                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                  I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                  But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                  I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                  mycos@mastodon.social
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                  #43

                  @urlyman Really? That's interesting, as I'm trying out Mastodon and coming from Bluesky, I interact with people frequently there. Yet, I only have 20-something followers, none of whom know me IRL.

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                  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                    I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                    But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                    I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

                    dodo1095zd@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    dodo1095zd@mastodon.social
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                    #44

                    @urlyman používám obojí, chce to jen čas...

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                    • hydropsyche@ecoevo.socialH hydropsyche@ecoevo.social

                      @urlyman I am a woman scientist. Reply guys are everywhere. At least on Mastodon, it's easy to add a personal note on their profile the first time they're obnoxious, and then block them the second time. And if they really cross the line, report them to their server and they actually face consequences.

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                      #45

                      @hydropsyche @urlyman
                      Considering myself as reply guy as I only get ideas from other messages rather than shouting in void. Personal note is not talked about a lot which also might mean people never use it which as you pointed out, can give first time warning for your future self how to deal with x person instead of relying on memory.

                      Never found twitter usefulness so never was attached personally myself, moved from reddit to Mastodon and then explored whole Fediverse and found it attractive.
                      Bluesky showing up late also was factor of "why bother, Fediverse not perfect but I like the appeal for growth".

                      What really concerning for me, that academic side didn't lean on Fediverse being in between closed spaces (twitter/Bluesky) and going anonymous comments. Self published blog with ActivityPub regardless of jankiness still a good opportunity to have people interact with your content while having history behind accounts, as well relieving burden of registration/holding account information/dealing with bot network registration and having semi anonymous data gathering.

                      We all part of algorithm be it twitter, Bluesky or google for independent blogs, so why bother with combination of social media+ Google when you can only appeal to Google + Fediverse instead?

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                      • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                        @urlyman bsky feels mostly "libertarian/status quo" to me, while masto leans more towards "socialist/anarchic" (with the pinch of salt of "it'll depend on who you follow" etc of course)

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                        #46

                        @patrick_h_lauke @urlyman It's funny because I see it flipped on Bluesky. Everyone is calling Mastodon a Libertarian or Centrists hub while calling themselves Leftist, Socialists, or Anarchists. I don't have much to add for/against either line of thinking, but figured I'd bring it up as it's interesting.

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                          #47

                          @Lydie @urlyman

                          https://inaniludibrio.com/2024/02/13/mastodon-is-for-old-school-neophiles/

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                            #48

                            @Lydie @urlyman I really liked the idea of pluggable Open Source algorithms.

                            The problem isn't *an* algorithm, it's whether you have control of it. Even chronological display is an algorithm, it's just one that's well understood.

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