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  • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

    @themipper

    Some of the new social media ban laws specifically apply to addictive feeds, for this reason.

    But far too many do not, and impose verification requirements that are financially impossible for sites that *don't* exploit their users with addictive feeds. Those bans not only don't punish addictive social media companies, but reward them by shutting down their competitors (i.e. Fedi).

    And all of them do nothing to protect adults from addiction.

    @jwildeboer

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    #24

    @argv_minus_one @jwildeboer it is sadly the case that a lot of tech legislation is heavily influenced by corporate lobbyists ...

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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      #25

      @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net there is nothing "social" about "social media". call it something distinct like a "persona substrate" which is far more susinct imo.

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      • themipper@mastodon.socialT themipper@mastodon.social

        @argv_minus_one @jwildeboer it is sadly the case that a lot of tech legislation is heavily influenced by corporate lobbyists ...

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        #26

        @themipper

        That it is, but I don't remember any other time when forcibly shutting down hundreds of thousands of small businesses, non-profits, and hobby projects was on the table. Tech legislation wasn't so apocalyptic until now.

        @jwildeboer

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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          #27

          @jwildeboer

          Loving this idea!

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          • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

            @themipper

            That it is, but I don't remember any other time when forcibly shutting down hundreds of thousands of small businesses, non-profits, and hobby projects was on the table. Tech legislation wasn't so apocalyptic until now.

            @jwildeboer

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            #28

            @argv_minus_one @jwildeboer I think with the rise of an american administration that is unhinged the corporate tech Billionaires and coporations do not have to pretend any more and are becoming more and more unhinged as well.

            And that can be seen everywhere and accelerates things a lot.

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            • themipper@mastodon.socialT themipper@mastodon.social

              @argv_minus_one @jwildeboer I think with the rise of an american administration that is unhinged the corporate tech Billionaires and coporations do not have to pretend any more and are becoming more and more unhinged as well.

              And that can be seen everywhere and accelerates things a lot.

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              #29

              @themipper

              The same apocalypse is happening in Europe too.

              @jwildeboer

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              • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                @themipper

                The same apocalypse is happening in Europe too.

                @jwildeboer

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                #30

                @argv_minus_one @jwildeboer oh I meant it in the sense that this unhinged admin and corporations have a strong ripple effect across the globe.
                Them unleashing their army of lobbyist across the globe.

                And we in Europe are no exception.

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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                  #31

                  @jwildeboer

                  Slight correction? "Algorithmic Propaganda". IMO "media" is too vague.

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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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                    #32

                    @jwildeboer more like algorithmic propaganda advertisements media

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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                      #33

                      @jwildeboer

                      Social Zizanie

                      cf : Asterix and the roman agent

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                      • mrfunkedude@beige.partyM mrfunkedude@beige.party

                        @jwildeboer I like to tell people that it's the only social media made by the people, for the people, and owned by the people. It seems to create interest when I do.

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                        #34

                        @Mrfunkedude @jwildeboer and then they miss the "algorithm"...

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                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                          I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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                          #35

                          @jwildeboer Yes, thats correct! i say ever, that meta have not the right to say social media to her networks. It are plattforms for the business with personal data and advertise!

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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                            #36

                            RE: https://masto.ai/@GhostOnTheHalfShell/110697014050821679

                            @jwildeboer

                            Something like this

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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                              #37

                              @jwildeboer i always thought of it as the difference between social networks and social media

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                              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                I like this. OH: The Fediverse is social media. TikTok, X, Facebook etc is algorithmic media. This catches the difference quite well. We should take the term social media back. It is about us, not their algorithms.

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                                #38

                                @jwildeboer Another interesting fact is that technically conservative social media attracts so many intellectuals as well as people with progressive views.

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