Mozilla Firefox alternatives to check out:

[mrmanor@social.data.coop]

@simonjust I have been testing Falkon https://falkon.org recently—it is usable, but not without problems. I miss some of the plugins that were available in FF. After playing videos, I often find that the CPU load maxes out for several seconds and the machine is unresponsive (it's a small laptop with limited resources). I find that it crashes more often than FF, but not so often that it's impossible to use.

[reynir@social.data.coop]

@folfdk @benjaoming @simonjust I'm keeping Firefox for now. I'm not convinced any of the other projects have the capacity to work on a *full* web browser. It helps to run Firefox ESR (extended support release) as the less nice features haven't landed there yet.

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@tokeriis Nej, Vivaldi er Chromium-baseret (som @pmakholm også skriver) - og kører ganske fortrinligt - også på Mac

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@MrManor Yes, that is sadly my experience with Falkon too. But it has been a while since I tried it, so I'll give it another try.

[saustrup@mstdn.dk]

@simonjust @MrManor I've started dipping my toes in LibreWolf. Not horrible so far.

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@saustrup @MrManor It runs pretty great, yeah. I'm somewhat convinced it opens even faster than Firefox, but I haven't done any measuring, though!

[mrmanor@social.data.coop]

@simonjust @saustrup Yes, I have the same impression. It feels lighter on a labtop with limited resources like mine. However, I'm not sure if that's just because it's Qt-based and I'm running KDE anyway, so maybe they share some resources.

[saustrup@mstdn.dk]

@simonjust @MrManor Also stumbled across this, which might make it even faster, more secure or whatever, based on what configuration file you pick: https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@MrManor @saustrup Could be the culprit, yes, some of the KDE libraries are perhaps already loaded into RAM, when your OS boots.

I'm on GNOME and opted for the flatpak, so it needs to load up the whole bunch

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@saustrup @MrManor Oh, excellent!

[anderslund@expressional.social]

@simonjust @MrManor @saustrup
Librewolf it not based on qt or kde, it is same ui library as firefox. It may be faster because they removed/disabled some of the bloat.

I use librewolf too, on kde, and zenbrowser, which is another great firefox based browser

[tokeriis@helvede.net]

@simonjust @pmakholm Nå ja, det overså jeg, my bad!

Så vil jeg også anbefale Helium: https://helium.computer

[benjaoming@social.data.coop]

@reynir @folfdk @simonjust I was hoping a major Linux distro would form an opinion and figure out which replacement of Firefox to go for.

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@benjaoming @reynir @folfdk Agreed, either that or disable/rip out the AI parts

[benjaoming@social.data.coop]

@simonjust @reynir @folfdk I think what happened with the last round of IceWeasel was that Mozilla was unhappy with some patches Debian did. In effect it means that every time someone changes Firefox in a way that Mozilla doesn't agree with, they are not allowed to call it Firefox anymore.

»In 2006, Mozilla withdrew their permission for Debian to use the Firefox name due to significant changes to the browser that Mozilla deemed outside the boundaries of its policy« - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat

[valberg@social.data.coop]

@simonjust @benjaoming @reynir @folfdk I'm quite happy with https://zen-browser.app/

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@benjaoming @reynir @folfdk That's right. I think that is alright, because you're not getting the full "Firefox experience" (for better or worse) and projects can deviate into their own separate thing.

[simonjust@mstdn.dk]

@valberg @benjaoming @reynir @folfdk Zen is pretty cool, yes! - I like the full screen default. I was slightly annoyed by the layout until I figured out the keybindings, so - all good!