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Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

    I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

    When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

    I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

    #ClimateDiary

    juliette@mastodon.greenJ mcsquank@zirk.usM alx@mastodon.designA E caffetino@social.pikaia.orgC 30 Replies Last reply
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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

      I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

      When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

      I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

      #ClimateDiary

      juliette@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @CiaraNi I have become the mood killer at lunch who takes any discussion of the heat and reminds people this is actually probably the coldest summer for the rest of our lives.

      ciarani@mastodon.greenC wendinoakland@beige.partyW 2 Replies Last reply
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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

        I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

        When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

        I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

        #ClimateDiary

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        #3

        @CiaraNi i can't even talk about it anymore. i just get filled w rage

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        • juliette@mastodon.greenJ juliette@mastodon.green

          @CiaraNi I have become the mood killer at lunch who takes any discussion of the heat and reminds people this is actually probably the coldest summer for the rest of our lives.

          ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @juliette I am comforted to learn that it's not just me.

          "This is the hottest day of my life."

          "The hottest day of your life so far."

          I am starting to tire of people making mention of climate collapse seem like a mood killer and social faux pas. We're going to tone-police ourselves and the planet to death, all because those of us in the 10% don't want to feel guilty about all the city-break flights and consumer goods.

          #ClimateDiary

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          • mcsquank@zirk.usM mcsquank@zirk.us

            @CiaraNi i can't even talk about it anymore. i just get filled w rage

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            #5

            @McSquank This resonates. I have become Very Fed Up with the way the majority of the 10% (as I think of our minority of people who have the privilege to over-consume and have summer homes and take holiday flights etc) have made talk about the climate collapse social taboo.

            #ClimateDiary

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

              I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

              When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

              I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

              #ClimateDiary

              alx@mastodon.designA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @CiaraNi I use environmental or ecological breakdown/collapse. I stopped to use "climate" because 1) climate is one of the planetary systems 2) it's one of the most complex systems, and impossible to govern 3) the major driver is the destruction of the land/water environment due to anthropogenic activity, from extractive industry to constant urbanisation. Point 3 is the part of the discourse directly dependent on our action: we can't control the rain, but we can avoid wiping out another forest.

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                #ClimateDiary

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                #7

                @CiaraNi climate collapse? hmm, that's a new one, I usually hear that as climate change, but yeah, climate collapse sounds better now I think about it

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                • alx@mastodon.designA alx@mastodon.design

                  @CiaraNi I use environmental or ecological breakdown/collapse. I stopped to use "climate" because 1) climate is one of the planetary systems 2) it's one of the most complex systems, and impossible to govern 3) the major driver is the destruction of the land/water environment due to anthropogenic activity, from extractive industry to constant urbanisation. Point 3 is the part of the discourse directly dependent on our action: we can't control the rain, but we can avoid wiping out another forest.

                  ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @alx All of that makes sense and is good. In casual social small talk, especially in general social situations rather than longer conversations with personal friends, I would just like to see the word 'crisis' and the topic generally brought into the conversation. It's being deliberately (as I believe) ignored, so even before the nuances, it'd be a start to see it talked about socially at all.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    @alx All of that makes sense and is good. In casual social small talk, especially in general social situations rather than longer conversations with personal friends, I would just like to see the word 'crisis' and the topic generally brought into the conversation. It's being deliberately (as I believe) ignored, so even before the nuances, it'd be a start to see it talked about socially at all.

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                    #9

                    @CiaraNi I'm with you with the omission of the word "crisis" and sure, we should use any means to bring it up. But the focus on the environment instead of climate isn't nuance, it brings back the attention where it should be: the environmental movement was concerned with forest, fauna, sea. Material things destroyed by behaviour we can change. The use of climate has been a deliberate choice to shift the attention to a nebulous system we can affect but can't control, thus easier to dismiss.

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                      I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                      When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                      I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                      #ClimateDiary

                      caffetino@social.pikaia.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      caffetino@social.pikaia.org
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                      #10

                      @CiaraNi I feel like a stuck record on this. Every time someone mentions the weather or says they're hot 'I know! It's only going to get worse too. We really need to get serious about climate change'

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                        I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                        When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                        I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                        #ClimateDiary

                        ehproque@neopaquita.esE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @CiaraNi I'm not sure it was you saying it yesterday, but anything else that simultaneously killed thousands in every country would be receiving a very different media treatment

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                          I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                          When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                          I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                          #ClimateDiary

                          bencotterill@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @CiaraNi @Walrus Went for a pint yesterday. In the same conversation, I overheard someone talking about an OAP in town dying from the heat and how great this summer is.

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                          • juliette@mastodon.greenJ juliette@mastodon.green

                            @CiaraNi I have become the mood killer at lunch who takes any discussion of the heat and reminds people this is actually probably the coldest summer for the rest of our lives.

                            wendinoakland@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @juliette @CiaraNi Hottest summer …so far!

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                              I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                              When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                              I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                              #ClimateDiary

                              woehnlich@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @CiaraNi you might consider another word: climate crisis (DE: Klimakrise), because it suggests: "it's a problem, but could be solved by humans", it is nothing already full defined, it is in the move. a collaps in the opposit, is a done thing, nothing todo there, just pass by and (try to) go one with your own live.

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                              • bencotterill@mastodon.socialB bencotterill@mastodon.social

                                @CiaraNi @Walrus Went for a pint yesterday. In the same conversation, I overheard someone talking about an OAP in town dying from the heat and how great this summer is.

                                muminitaly@mastodon.scotM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @BenCotterill @CiaraNi @Walrus This is why most of the human race will not survive. Those of us who can see environmental collapse in the near future should be teaching our grandchildren survival skills.

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                                  I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                                  When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                                  I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                                  #ClimateDiary

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                                  #16

                                  @CiaraNi I see this everywhere. With everything. No one wants to talk about the underlying systems in place. Frankly, I doubt that most people can even think that far at this point. 😅

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                                    I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                                    When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                                    I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                                    #ClimateDiary

                                    heathermj@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @CiaraNi
                                    I'm right with you. As Old Women we are also most at risk
                                    #ClimateCollapse

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                                      I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                                      When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                                      I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                                      #ClimateDiary

                                      essjayjay@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @CiaraNi

                                      I always refer to it as 'climate breakdown in real-time'.

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                                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                        Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                                        I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                                        When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                                        I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                                        #ClimateDiary

                                        alexisbushnell@toot.walesA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @CiaraNi that's a really great idea actually, I will try and do this more

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          Two tiny things I've started doing since the heatwaves became social small talk.

                                          I use the phrase 'climate collapse'. Klimakollaps. Not climate change.

                                          When anyone moans about the heat in isolation, as if it's just a rare hot day today, I mention the death toll and wonder aloud: 'What are we going to do about climate collapse?' Just to bring it into the conversation.

                                          I know it's very Old Woman Yells At Climate Collapse. But it's just weird that we refuse to even mention it.

                                          #ClimateDiary

                                          john_ligher@urusai.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @CiaraNi The sick part is that leaders around the world is not doing enough to prevent it from getting worse...

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