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  • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

    @meganmariehart I once run an experiment similar to yours. I asked people to boost a toot with a URL to a webserver I controlled, no hashtags either. It got <3k boosts. Yours will probably get similar numbers. At that point, IIRC, the Fedi (or was it just Mastodon?) was ~2M accounts, so it reached ~15% of the net. I wrote abut it here:

    https://www.grulic.org.ar/~mdione/glob/posts/the-mastodon-effect-meta-discussion/

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    #57

    @mdione I've just finished reading your blog post. Very cool, I wish I had read this before making my notifications useless (and they are now!) It seems that the Fediverse is not the best place for spontaneous experiments! I’m not sure if the idea was so bad that I should delete the post, or just wait! Think I’ll wait

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    • linos@graz.socialL linos@graz.social

      @meganmariehart Many theaters have websites that run via the software WordPress. All they have to do is install a plugin (and to take 10 minutes reviewing the settings) and their website is connected to the Fediverse. Even less work.

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      #58

      @linos

      True, wordpress addon is the easiest way to join the fediverse.

      There are already hosting services that do the technical back end install and maintenance. Owning a domain, with a few clicks anyone can host their own mastodon instance (for fans and paid subscribers), friendica for own complex postings and attention to subscribers, peerTube for video and audio or castoPod for podCasts, to mention a few.
      The main detail:
      Your domain, your hosting your data and copyright!

      @meganmariehart

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      • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

        … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

        Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

        7/7

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        #59

        @meganmariehart I currently have a reel on IG that has gotten 270K likes. I didn't create it. Someone on mastodon posted it, I downloaded the video, and reposted it there. I feel no great achievement with the numbers, but it's fun to watch it tick up and up and up. My other engagement hasn't changed much. A few hundred followers who generally don't respond to my daily posts, no more.

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        • diverdutch@mastodon.socialD diverdutch@mastodon.social

          @u0421793 @meganmariehart

          Yes, of course the "plants" need watering...

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          #60

          @diverdutch @meganmariehart

          “It sounds like just as though you're describing some form of super carrot.”
          “That's nearly right. This carrot, as you call it, has constructed an aircraft capable of flying some millions of miles through space propelled by a force as yet unknown to us.”

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          • sevapopov@mastodon.mlS sevapopov@mastodon.ml

            @meganmariehart I never use hashtags on Mastodon since I forgot that they were used in Twitter. They are not used in Telegram. In case of Russian mastodon there are 2 bots that boost your posts if they are written in russian. I have no idea how they are boosted if they are written in English and how, let's say, a person would find somebody to follow in Mastodon if he only registered and wants to find something to read and interact with.

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            #61

            @Sevapopov @meganmariehart I use hashtags because I and others follow them to find specific content. Some people block things like the name of the president to avoid seeing it. They are my favorite tool.

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            • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

              @AvacadoAvenger I figured as much. I'm just trying to gauge the size of the ballpark. Thank you!

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              #62

              @meganmariehart @AvacadoAvenger nor is it easy to qualify. Does the reader read the entire post, or just the first few words? Do they give it some thought, or dismiss it as irrelevant/uninteresting? Is the reader mindlessly scrolling, partially or fully engaged?

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              • patrick@retro.socialP patrick@retro.social

                @meganmariehart You're posting links to the shows, and you seem to be reasonably well connected on the Fediverse - you could pick one to leave out (together with the theatre's media team) and they could check their analysis tools to see how much of a dent that makes to website traffic.

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                #63

                @patrick Yeah. That would have been the way to do it if I was smart. Oh well, what's done is done. Thanks! 😸

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                • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                  … and opera is primarily a live art form, so its market share is so small as to be essentially unmeasurable. I never bothered to find out how many people I reach vs how many interactions a post gets. I really couldn’t care less!) Brands and “Influencer”-minded people, even people just used to commercial socials testing the fediverse might feel like it is not working for them and leave again, so I was wondering about the *potential* reach of a toot.
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                  #64

                  @meganmariehart I'm a novelist. I enjoy Mastodon as a water cooler experience with people in my various communities, with hastags being useful. Not interested in trying to flog my books here, or seeing any others who do so.

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                  • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                    … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

                    Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

                    7/7

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                    #65

                    @meganmariehart When running an instance, it’s possible to retrieve the number of times or number of users that have viewed the post directly on that instance.

                    But you don’t see the number of views on the other instances the post has reached.

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                      #66

                      @jakmarcin Thank you! Do you go to Theater Vorpommern? I auditioned there years ago, nothing came of it though. I have fond memories of the region and salty liquorice!

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                      • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                        @patrick Yeah. That would have been the way to do it if I was smart. Oh well, what's done is done. Thanks! 😸

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                        #67

                        @meganmariehart All good! 🙂
                        I like that you're thinking about these matters and I appreciate your presence here. Nice insights, and good advertising (though I'm still more likely to end up in the Staatstheater Wiesbaden, even though it's a longer distance. Old habits etc etc)

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                        • linos@graz.socialL linos@graz.social

                          @meganmariehart Many theaters have websites that run via the software WordPress. All they have to do is install a plugin (and to take 10 minutes reviewing the settings) and their website is connected to the Fediverse. Even less work.

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                          #68

                          @linos Thank you! That’s apparently how Das Opernmagazin got on here, @opernmagazin !

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                          • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                            BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                            Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                            #69

                            @meganmariehart Why do you use THE IMPERATIVE FORM IN UPPERCASE when you post something?

                            Do you know the word "please"?

                            Do you have to SHOUT orders to strangers when you conduct an experiment?

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                            • simon_brooke@mastodon.scotS simon_brooke@mastodon.scot

                              @meganmariehart I see it. But I boost or quote only things which have value.

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                              #70

                              @simon_brooke Fair, thank you for your reply!

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                              • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                                #71

                                @meganmariehart

                                I can't see your post and am way to what ever to read all the rest of your 🧵 ..

                                😎

                                Not sure what you want to achive.

                                Yes we do have some federation statistics in at least some of our backends. friendica servers for example display the amount of platforms, server and people they found in the fedi.

                                Than there is the part that we don't like the standard fashion influencer who treat us like sheep to heard or cows to milk.

                                Of course there are business models to think of, but there are a whole lot of middle men that need to jump on the train. An important part of the enshitification talk by @pluralistic is about all this. No clicks you can buy, no algorithm you can buy, no data you can buy to groom your victims.

                                Like to say, we created this for us and people like you.
                                ❤️

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                                • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                  BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                  Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                                  #72

                                  @meganmariehart challenge accepted

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                                  • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                                    #73

                                    @meganmariehart

                                    Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies not likes or boosts.

                                    A good post spawns a million threads and subthreads.

                                    However, I'm on social media to ... socialize (crazy right?)

                                    People who view social media as a publicity tool don't reply to posts, they don't even read their own replies. It's like they aren't even here.

                                    Sad that on places like X/twitter replies were seen as a negative: a sign that people were angry at you. Dysfunctional.

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      @meganmariehart

                                      Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies not likes or boosts.

                                      A good post spawns a million threads and subthreads.

                                      However, I'm on social media to ... socialize (crazy right?)

                                      People who view social media as a publicity tool don't reply to posts, they don't even read their own replies. It's like they aren't even here.

                                      Sad that on places like X/twitter replies were seen as a negative: a sign that people were angry at you. Dysfunctional.

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                                      #74

                                      @futurebird @meganmariehart 100%, getting many likes is in some sense satisfying, but one engaged reply is gratifying.

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        @meganmariehart

                                        Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies not likes or boosts.

                                        A good post spawns a million threads and subthreads.

                                        However, I'm on social media to ... socialize (crazy right?)

                                        People who view social media as a publicity tool don't reply to posts, they don't even read their own replies. It's like they aren't even here.

                                        Sad that on places like X/twitter replies were seen as a negative: a sign that people were angry at you. Dysfunctional.

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                                        #75

                                        @futurebird @futurebird @meganmariehart well lots of replies with few likes and boosts

                                        it kind of annoyed me that "ratio" shifted meaning to just getting more likes than someone after awhile though

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                                        • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                                          @meganmariehart
                                          One of the many reasons I like Mastodon is that there are no brands and influencers. I follow people who share my interests. Sure they have an influence and sometimes someone will advise I use/don't use a particular product but that's based on their own experience not the £$ they are being paid. If any professional influencers do show up on my timeline they'll be blocked.

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                                          #76

                                          @pthane Yes, I would probably block them too. It would be great if we could live in a world without advertising! There is a difference between advertising that tries to trick people to spend money on something they don’t need in order to make a profit, and advertising that informs the public about nice things. Such as a nearby performance that you might otherwise easily miss! Thank you for your reply!

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