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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    @stefan @c_dan4th yep. I personally know several prominent artists, authors, and entertainers who were driven away from here by people enforcing these made up rules. The thinking (to the extent there’s actual thinking happening here) is that anyone who had a large following on twitter was - by definition - part of the problem with twitter.

    stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #24

    @mattblaze On one hand, I do sympathize with all the marginalized people who originally came to the fediverse to seek refuge from Twitter and other (mostly corporate) online spaces where they were not safe and welcome themselves.

    But there has to be a way we can share the fediverse together.

    @c_dan4th

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    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

      jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #25

      @mattblaze Just block and move on, man.

      Whenever one of those crosses my feed (which isn't common, thank goodness) that's what I do. And I don't ever dignify them with aknowledging their existence, unless I feel like giving them a last goodbye that day.

      Some people are just dumb. Nothing you can do about it. All you can do is protect yourself from their stupidity.

      No need to justify posting your photos. Or whatever else you post. Just shrug and keep posting what you want.

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      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

        paulb3017@mastodon.scotP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #26

        @mattblaze
        It's not for anyone else to say what you should be tooting so I'd say just ignore them. I really don't mind if artists, photographers, etc. use this as a space to show us and sell things they've made themselves. The reality is that people have to make a living somehow, and mastodon is one of the few places artisans have the potential to do that without supporting a fascist tech bro.

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        • chris@westmichigan.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #27

          @Kiloku @mattblaze I feel like I wouldn't mind ads by a corporation on Mastodon. I see everything as opt-in: if I don't want their ads I don't follow them, if people boost their ads and it makes it onto my feed I can just mute them or something.

          I'd rather have some ads that I can easily ignore than be on a platform that forces me to see ads.

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          • jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ jorgecandeias@mastodon.social

            @mattblaze Just block and move on, man.

            Whenever one of those crosses my feed (which isn't common, thank goodness) that's what I do. And I don't ever dignify them with aknowledging their existence, unless I feel like giving them a last goodbye that day.

            Some people are just dumb. Nothing you can do about it. All you can do is protect yourself from their stupidity.

            No need to justify posting your photos. Or whatever else you post. Just shrug and keep posting what you want.

            mattblaze@federate.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #28

            @jorgecandeias being smugly advised to “just block and move on” gets old the thousandth or so time.

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            • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

              @mattblaze I hate the folks who think artists promoting their own work is "spam". Individuals making things is the point. Literally the reason I'm here rather than somewhere else. I specifically, explicitly, entirely, want to see what people are making.

              missgayle@urbanists.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #29

              @swelljoe @mattblaze

              Overall, the fediverse is far more accepting of artists promoting their work than twitter ever was. Of course, YMMV, but there are whole instances dedicated to arts and crafts and nobody blocks them.

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              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #30

                @mattblaze I cannot understand the level of entitlement one must have to feel justified in telling anyone how to use their account. If you started posting GWAR fan fiction that is entirely your prerogative. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to mute/block/unfollow/launch themselves into low orbit.

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                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                  @jorgecandeias being smugly advised to “just block and move on” gets old the thousandth or so time.

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                  #31

                  @mattblaze Never saw the other 999 times, but OK, then. I won't tell you anything the next times you complain about someone craving for attention that goes after you. It does happen a lot, I've noticed.

                  Pinky promise.

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                  • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

                    @mattblaze I cannot understand the level of entitlement one must have to feel justified in telling anyone how to use their account. If you started posting GWAR fan fiction that is entirely your prerogative. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to mute/block/unfollow/launch themselves into low orbit.

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                    #32

                    @chronovore @mattblaze

                    While true, people would be entirely justified to scold about posting GWAR fan fiction without some sort of hashtag.

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                    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                      daj@gofer.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #33

                      @mattblaze The block button is your friend.  You are in control.

                      There is no room for twats here.  You Do You  🙂

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                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                        brad@1040ste.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #34

                        @mattblaze How are people seeing your toots, if not through recommendations from others? Like, shouldn't they be annoyed with (and stop following) the retooter if they don't like what they're seeing? Assuming they aren't following you of course, in which case their reaction is even more inexplicable.

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                        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                          Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                          For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                          Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                          gdinwiddie@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #35

                          @mattblaze Thank you for sharing your photos here for my enjoyment.

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                          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                            Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                            For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                            Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                            anysh@mastodon.ieA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #36

                            @mattblaze I love your photos! Keep posting them

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                            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                              Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                              For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                              Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                              nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #37

                              @mattblaze It's like they can't figure out that they're in charge of what they see on the platform...they're making you responsible for what they see Exactly backwards

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                              • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                @mattblaze On one hand, I do sympathize with all the marginalized people who originally came to the fediverse to seek refuge from Twitter and other (mostly corporate) online spaces where they were not safe and welcome themselves.

                                But there has to be a way we can share the fediverse together.

                                @c_dan4th

                                ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #38

                                @stefan
                                > sympathize with all the marginalized people

                                Yet who tried to annoy someone posting his art photos are not of the marginalized kind. Those are IMO paid trolls. Plenty of them, esp on Xwamp, from where they likely came.

                                @mattblaze @c_dan4th

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                                • missgayle@urbanists.socialM missgayle@urbanists.social

                                  @swelljoe @mattblaze

                                  Overall, the fediverse is far more accepting of artists promoting their work than twitter ever was. Of course, YMMV, but there are whole instances dedicated to arts and crafts and nobody blocks them.

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                                  #39

                                  @MissGayle @mattblaze Mastodon also has more self-appointed HOA presidents than anywhere I've ever been. It's a mixed bag. Nobody owns the place, so everybody thinks they own the place.

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                                  • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

                                    @MissGayle @mattblaze Mastodon also has more self-appointed HOA presidents than anywhere I've ever been. It's a mixed bag. Nobody owns the place, so everybody thinks they own the place.

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                                    #40

                                    @swelljoe @mattblaze

                                    Lols, you might be right.

                                    My personal pet peeve is people who don't use hashtags then whine about nobody seeing their posts b/c they don't have lots of followers. The fediverse was always supposed to be about conversations, and topics, not "influencers" or a popularity contest. But, you know, my opinion.

                                    PS - Same goes for people who don't subscribe to any hashtags then whine about their home feed being empty...

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                                    • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                                      @mattblaze There are a lot of artists and photographers on here. Have they not noticed this?

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                                      #41

                                      @maccruiskeen @mattblaze … who *share* their work with us, free of charge, for our pleasure. How annoying. 😇

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                                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                        nonehitwonder@tenforward.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #42

                                        @mattblaze "MastoScold!" I love it.

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                                        • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @stefan
                                          > sympathize with all the marginalized people

                                          Yet who tried to annoy someone posting his art photos are not of the marginalized kind. Those are IMO paid trolls. Plenty of them, esp on Xwamp, from where they likely came.

                                          @mattblaze @c_dan4th

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                                          #43

                                          @ohir Getting paid. In the fediverse?

                                          Ha!

                                          But on a more serious note, I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community. Fighting a righteous fight.

                                          We have to actively call this stuff out and report it as harassment.

                                          @mattblaze @c_dan4th

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