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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

    For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

    Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

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    #36

    @mattblaze I love your photos! Keep posting them

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    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

      nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @mattblaze It's like they can't figure out that they're in charge of what they see on the platform...they're making you responsible for what they see Exactly backwards

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      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

        @mattblaze On one hand, I do sympathize with all the marginalized people who originally came to the fediverse to seek refuge from Twitter and other (mostly corporate) online spaces where they were not safe and welcome themselves.

        But there has to be a way we can share the fediverse together.

        @c_dan4th

        ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @stefan
        > sympathize with all the marginalized people

        Yet who tried to annoy someone posting his art photos are not of the marginalized kind. Those are IMO paid trolls. Plenty of them, esp on Xwamp, from where they likely came.

        @mattblaze @c_dan4th

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        • missgayle@urbanists.socialM missgayle@urbanists.social

          @swelljoe @mattblaze

          Overall, the fediverse is far more accepting of artists promoting their work than twitter ever was. Of course, YMMV, but there are whole instances dedicated to arts and crafts and nobody blocks them.

          swelljoe@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #39

          @MissGayle @mattblaze Mastodon also has more self-appointed HOA presidents than anywhere I've ever been. It's a mixed bag. Nobody owns the place, so everybody thinks they own the place.

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          • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

            @MissGayle @mattblaze Mastodon also has more self-appointed HOA presidents than anywhere I've ever been. It's a mixed bag. Nobody owns the place, so everybody thinks they own the place.

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            #40

            @swelljoe @mattblaze

            Lols, you might be right.

            My personal pet peeve is people who don't use hashtags then whine about nobody seeing their posts b/c they don't have lots of followers. The fediverse was always supposed to be about conversations, and topics, not "influencers" or a popularity contest. But, you know, my opinion.

            PS - Same goes for people who don't subscribe to any hashtags then whine about their home feed being empty...

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            • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

              @mattblaze There are a lot of artists and photographers on here. Have they not noticed this?

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              #41

              @maccruiskeen @mattblaze … who *share* their work with us, free of charge, for our pleasure. How annoying. 😇

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              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

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                #42

                @mattblaze "MastoScold!" I love it.

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                • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                  @stefan
                  > sympathize with all the marginalized people

                  Yet who tried to annoy someone posting his art photos are not of the marginalized kind. Those are IMO paid trolls. Plenty of them, esp on Xwamp, from where they likely came.

                  @mattblaze @c_dan4th

                  stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #43

                  @ohir Getting paid. In the fediverse?

                  Ha!

                  But on a more serious note, I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community. Fighting a righteous fight.

                  We have to actively call this stuff out and report it as harassment.

                  @mattblaze @c_dan4th

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                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                    Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                    For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                    Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

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                    #44

                    @mattblaze

                    If they want to prevent artists from earning a living, have they heard of AI?

                    That's what it does.

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                    • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

                      @mattblaze I hate the folks who think artists promoting their own work is "spam". Individuals making things is the point. Literally the reason I'm here rather than somewhere else. I specifically, explicitly, entirely, want to see what people are making.

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                      #45

                      @swelljoe @mattblaze I can understand people not liking it if the people posting their work never interact with the people viewing it, like an automated account, but if you are active in your community and participate I don’t see the problem. It’s about the conversations at the end of the day.

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                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

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                        #46

                        @mattblaze
                        Matt, sorry that happened. Bill

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                        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                          Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                          For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                          Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

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                          #47

                          @mattblaze I often hesitate with posting a link to my store, although it directly supports this mastodon instance in its existence 🤔

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                          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                            Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                            For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                            Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                            mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #48

                            @mattblaze

                            Props for 'mastoscold'

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                            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                              Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                              For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                              Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

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                              #49

                              @mattblaze Strange , I see no issue with it

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                              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                caiocgo@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #50

                                @mattblaze I suggest you start selling now just to piss these people off hahaha

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                                • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                  @ohir Getting paid. In the fediverse?

                                  Ha!

                                  But on a more serious note, I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community. Fighting a righteous fight.

                                  We have to actively call this stuff out and report it as harassment.

                                  @mattblaze @c_dan4th

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                                  #51

                                  @stefan
                                  > I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community.
                                  Err... Vulnerable, small, offended by the architecture? What Matt Blaze reported fits into the operative playbook. Below analysis from 2020, and it didn't abated since.

                                  @mattblaze @c_dan4th

                                  https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/russian-disinformation-campaigns-on-twitter/

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                                  • chris@westmichigan.socialC chris@westmichigan.social

                                    @Kiloku @mattblaze I feel like I wouldn't mind ads by a corporation on Mastodon. I see everything as opt-in: if I don't want their ads I don't follow them, if people boost their ads and it makes it onto my feed I can just mute them or something.

                                    I'd rather have some ads that I can easily ignore than be on a platform that forces me to see ads.

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                                    #52

                                    @chris @Kiloku @mattblaze I totally agree with Chris. Since there is no way to force an ad in my feed, I understand that by following a commercial venture here implies seeing something they want to sell me. I am OK with that.

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                                    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                      raymierussell@mastodon.scotR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #53

                                      @mattblaze
                                      Fuck 'em.
                                      I occasionally post a referal link for my mobile phone provider because I genuinely rate them and it gets myself and any referal person a nice freebie.

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                                      • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @stefan
                                        > I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community.
                                        Err... Vulnerable, small, offended by the architecture? What Matt Blaze reported fits into the operative playbook. Below analysis from 2020, and it didn't abated since.

                                        @mattblaze @c_dan4th

                                        https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/russian-disinformation-campaigns-on-twitter/

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                                        #54

                                        @ohir I tried to find the reply or replies Matt was referring to, so it's really hard to comment on this further.

                                        Mostly just going by the type of interactions I have witnessed, largely in screenshots getting shared around. And those definitely were not "paid trolls".

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                                        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                          Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                          For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                          Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

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                                          #55

                                          @mattblaze Don't let the scolds get you down. Focus on the people who enjoy looking at your pictures. (I hope I don't sound like I'm scolding.)

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