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  • someguy@beige.partyS someguy@beige.party

    @sundogplanets I would like to point out that it's not uncommon for #actuallyautistic #communication to be mistaken for #mansplaining.

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    #59

    @someguy

    It would probably be way less common, if so many people would use an actual definition, instead of just whether it "feels like mansplaining" to them.

    In some contexts, I've even seen disagreement being framed as mansplaining (which it can be, but not necessarily is), because if you disagree with a woman as a man, you're "explaining your opinion/the reason why you disagree to her", which is just absurd.

    To many, the term seems to be misleading.

    1/

    @sundogplanets

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    • socketwench@masto.hackers.townS socketwench@masto.hackers.town

      @cascheranno @sundogplanets Universe, I need one of those too.

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      #60

      @socketwench @cascheranno @sundogplanets
      Universe! I like your exclamations!

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      • hauchvonstaub@nrw.socialH hauchvonstaub@nrw.social

        @someguy

        It would probably be way less common, if so many people would use an actual definition, instead of just whether it "feels like mansplaining" to them.

        In some contexts, I've even seen disagreement being framed as mansplaining (which it can be, but not necessarily is), because if you disagree with a woman as a man, you're "explaining your opinion/the reason why you disagree to her", which is just absurd.

        To many, the term seems to be misleading.

        1/

        @sundogplanets

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        #61

        @someguy

        I've never seen a single incident of actual mansplaining, that would have needed this chart, since "Do I actually care about this topic, or do I just want female attention?", would have already been enough.

        2/2

        @sundogplanets

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
          https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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          #62

          Ok the comments are more obnoxious than funny now, so muting this thread!

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Ok the comments are more obnoxious than funny now, so muting this thread!

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            #63

            @sundogplanets dayumn

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
              https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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              #64

              @sundogplanets

              Tend to have an annoying habit of agreeing wholeheartedly with a post, then adding link dumps of examples & expansions of how wonderfully correct they are.

              It's mistaken for mansplaining.

              Or as hijacking the intent of their post.

              Or as "Teaching grandmother to suck eggs" .
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs

              Apologies once again for the irritation this habit causes.

              You know your stuff, comments from the peanut gallery aren't always helpful.

              johntinker@hear-me.socialJ snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM 3 Replies Last reply
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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                #65

                @sundogplanets I had to have a Me Me version 🙂 so here's a bad one...

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                • snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #66

                  @colinux

                  nice when a thread shows who to block

                  @sundogplanets

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    @sundogplanets

                    Tend to have an annoying habit of agreeing wholeheartedly with a post, then adding link dumps of examples & expansions of how wonderfully correct they are.

                    It's mistaken for mansplaining.

                    Or as hijacking the intent of their post.

                    Or as "Teaching grandmother to suck eggs" .
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs

                    Apologies once again for the irritation this habit causes.

                    You know your stuff, comments from the peanut gallery aren't always helpful.

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                    #67

                    @Npars01 @sundogplanets
                    Sometimes people who are just trying to be helpful offend others by not recognizing their sense of authority. So it becomes an opportunity to punish someone.

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                    • C catpaynewaffle@mastodon.social

                      @sundogplanets isn't this... womansplaining?

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                      #68

                      @CatpayneWaffle @sundogplanets

                      Theoretically, in some alternate universe where women hold most of the power and have historically steamrolled right over any man who dared to know stuff, maybe. In the universe we actually live in though, womansplaining is not a thing.

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                      • femme_mal@mstdn.socialF femme_mal@mstdn.social

                        @Roodie This ^ is whataboutism, an attempt to undermine the point being made, a common follow-on in mansplaining which attempts to contest the mansplained expert's legitimacy and authority.

                        *block*

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                        #69

                        @femme_mal @Roodie

                        yup.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                          https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                          #70

                          @sundogplanets

                          I *like* this chart!

                          <double checks: no, I did not try and explain anything in this post!>

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                          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                            @sundogplanets

                            Tend to have an annoying habit of agreeing wholeheartedly with a post, then adding link dumps of examples & expansions of how wonderfully correct they are.

                            It's mistaken for mansplaining.

                            Or as hijacking the intent of their post.

                            Or as "Teaching grandmother to suck eggs" .
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs

                            Apologies once again for the irritation this habit causes.

                            You know your stuff, comments from the peanut gallery aren't always helpful.

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                            #71

                            @Npars01 @sundogplanets

                            For some reason I haven't thought of your dropping multiple links as mansplaining, instead it comes across as providing helpful resources.

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                            • johntinker@hear-me.socialJ johntinker@hear-me.social

                              @Npars01 @sundogplanets
                              Sometimes people who are just trying to be helpful offend others by not recognizing their sense of authority. So it becomes an opportunity to punish someone.

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                              #72

                              @johntinker @sundogplanets

                              I get it.

                              I'd find it irritating too if someone was jostling my elbow as I tried to communicate.

                              The feedback is appreciated.

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                              • snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS snowyca@social.vivaldi.net

                                @Npars01 @sundogplanets

                                For some reason I haven't thought of your dropping multiple links as mansplaining, instead it comes across as providing helpful resources.

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                                #73

                                @SnowyCA @sundogplanets

                                People respond in different ways to the linkdumps.

                                Respect for expertise means adjusting my style to keep receiving their posts & avoid being blocked for presenting as a nuisance.

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                                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                  @SnowyCA @sundogplanets

                                  People respond in different ways to the linkdumps.

                                  Respect for expertise means adjusting my style to keep receiving their posts & avoid being blocked for presenting as a nuisance.

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                                  #74

                                  @Npars01 @sundogplanets

                                  I hear you.
                                  I think the difference is your 'tone' when replying-there's no disrespect .

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                    #75

                                    @sundogplanets
                                    as a male there are a few things I feel I have to point out.
                                    first, let me explain....
                                    😉

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                                    • hauchvonstaub@nrw.socialH hauchvonstaub@nrw.social

                                      @someguy

                                      I've never seen a single incident of actual mansplaining, that would have needed this chart, since "Do I actually care about this topic, or do I just want female attention?", would have already been enough.

                                      2/2

                                      @sundogplanets

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                                      #76

                                      @hauchvonstaub @someguy @sundogplanets
                                      .
                                      as an Autist, my experience is being told I’m mansplaining while simultaneously not being heard and the mansplaining offence was for stuff I do not think and never said but every NT person thinks all by themselves and the thing I said that they didn’t know they still don’t know.
                                      .
                                      There’s no sense mansplaining to some people. 😜
                                      .
                                      howTF am I mansplaining when you didn’t know the thing before and you still don’t know it after 😬😠

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                                      • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

                                        @sundogplanets For some reason this diagram reminds me of the TISM song "Use Your Delusion II". "The high ideals that you once had end up in your colostomy bag..."

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                                        #77

                                        @bms48 @sundogplanets lack of all reception.

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                                        • snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS snowyca@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @Npars01 @sundogplanets

                                          I hear you.
                                          I think the difference is your 'tone' when replying-there's no disrespect .

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                                          #78

                                          @SnowyCA @Npars01 @sundogplanets Sadly I've seen Nicole yelled at recently. The problem is people sometimes just want to be social with experts - just show off they know something or ask a question. Depends on the user it seems, some are untouchable and think her replies in earnest are explaining. Not everything is a correction/explanation. Sometimes I think it's just "yes and..."

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