I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account...
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@Roodie This ^ is whataboutism, an attempt to undermine the point being made, a common follow-on in mansplaining which attempts to contest the mansplained expert's legitimacy and authority.
*block*
yup.
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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chartI *like* this chart!
<double checks: no, I did not try and explain anything in this post!>
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Tend to have an annoying habit of agreeing wholeheartedly with a post, then adding link dumps of examples & expansions of how wonderfully correct they are.
It's mistaken for mansplaining.
Or as hijacking the intent of their post.
Or as "Teaching grandmother to suck eggs" .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggsApologies once again for the irritation this habit causes.
You know your stuff, comments from the peanut gallery aren't always helpful.
For some reason I haven't thought of your dropping multiple links as mansplaining, instead it comes across as providing helpful resources.
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@Npars01 @sundogplanets
Sometimes people who are just trying to be helpful offend others by not recognizing their sense of authority. So it becomes an opportunity to punish someone.I get it.
I'd find it irritating too if someone was jostling my elbow as I tried to communicate.
The feedback is appreciated.
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For some reason I haven't thought of your dropping multiple links as mansplaining, instead it comes across as providing helpful resources.
People respond in different ways to the linkdumps.
Respect for expertise means adjusting my style to keep receiving their posts & avoid being blocked for presenting as a nuisance.
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People respond in different ways to the linkdumps.
Respect for expertise means adjusting my style to keep receiving their posts & avoid being blocked for presenting as a nuisance.
I hear you.
I think the difference is your 'tone' when replying-there's no disrespect . -
I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart@sundogplanets
as a male there are a few things I feel I have to point out.
first, let me explain....
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I've never seen a single incident of actual mansplaining, that would have needed this chart, since "Do I actually care about this topic, or do I just want female attention?", would have already been enough.
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@hauchvonstaub @someguy @sundogplanets
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as an Autist, my experience is being told I’m mansplaining while simultaneously not being heard and the mansplaining offence was for stuff I do not think and never said but every NT person thinks all by themselves and the thing I said that they didn’t know they still don’t know.
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There’s no sense mansplaining to some people.
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howTF am I mansplaining when you didn’t know the thing before and you still don’t know it after
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@sundogplanets For some reason this diagram reminds me of the TISM song "Use Your Delusion II". "The high ideals that you once had end up in your colostomy bag..."
@bms48 @sundogplanets lack of all reception.
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I hear you.
I think the difference is your 'tone' when replying-there's no disrespect .@SnowyCA @Npars01 @sundogplanets Sadly I've seen Nicole yelled at recently. The problem is people sometimes just want to be social with experts - just show off they know something or ask a question. Depends on the user it seems, some are untouchable and think her replies in earnest are explaining. Not everything is a correction/explanation. Sometimes I think it's just "yes and..."
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@howking
do you feel the need to explain?This seems more about making yourself feel more authoritative than making the other person feel better or more informed. Maybe just ask yourself if it really matters?
Also, for the specific example that the OP is referring to (ie. being a recognized authority on a subject and still being mansplained on that subject), your generic response doesn't really seem all that applicable.
@flipper @howking @sundogplanets Seems like they're agreeing.
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@platypusparent @ministerofimpediments @sundogplanets
My people! I'm sorry I happen to be a man.
@dadube @platypusparent @ministerofimpediments Careful folks!
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@CatpayneWaffle @sundogplanets
Theoretically, in some alternate universe where women hold most of the power and have historically steamrolled right over any man who dared to know stuff, maybe. In the universe we actually live in though, womansplaining is not a thing.
@bruce @CatpayneWaffle curious - you know what you're doing? benevolent sexism. they are weaker so they need you to protect them - you're doing it now... they don't, we share power here, it's the modern era.
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@SnowyCA @Npars01 @sundogplanets Sadly I've seen Nicole yelled at recently. The problem is people sometimes just want to be social with experts - just show off they know something or ask a question. Depends on the user it seems, some are untouchable and think her replies in earnest are explaining. Not everything is a correction/explanation. Sometimes I think it's just "yes and..."
@jenzi @SnowyCA @sundogplanets
I don't see it as "yelling" but as a polite "please let me speak, without interrupting"
They are being kind, but firm, like every good teacher doing classroom management.
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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart -
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@PWei888 @sundogplanets nope. she can't hesplain.
@lockspringer @PWei888 Just like how women can't commit manslaughter
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@SnowyCA @Npars01 @sundogplanets Sadly I've seen Nicole yelled at recently. The problem is people sometimes just want to be social with experts - just show off they know something or ask a question. Depends on the user it seems, some are untouchable and think her replies in earnest are explaining. Not everything is a correction/explanation. Sometimes I think it's just "yes and..."
@jenzi @Npars01 @sundogplanets
That is indeed sad....unacceptable.
I have have seen and experienced only, "yes, and...".....
To me that feels supportive ..not at all mansplaining
