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BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety.

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  • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

    BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

    http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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    #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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    #34

    @iFixit
    How effective are screw extraction bits on the BMW screw? Once the screw is out, replace it with an ordinary one with the same threads and length.

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    • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

      BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

      http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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      #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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      #35

      @iFixit BMW is basically dying. I don't see new BMWs on my way to work. They started with a subscription-based seat heather, yet developing ad idiotic patented screw.
      Compared to more innovative car makers (chinese ones on top of all), they look like Blackberry or Nokia when the first iPhone was unveiled.

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      • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

        BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

        http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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        #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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        #36

        @iFixit
        When faced with something like this I get the dremel out and cut a notch in it, then get it out with a flat screwdriver.
        Worked on my former MINI (a BMW), with torx screws on the tail light cover, didn't have bit for them at the time.

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        • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

          BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

          http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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          #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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          #37

          @iFixit Capitalist free markets need wise regulation. It shouldn't be legal to innovate for the purpose of blocking interoperability or entrapping customers. Corporations HATE free markets because true competition is hard and profits are slimmer. External force is required.

          Absent regulation to establish rules to protect society, free markets must race towards monopoly, corruption, and enshitification. Regulated markets can work - uncontrolled markets foaters Lord of the Flies conditions.

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          • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

            BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

            http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
            —
            #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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            #38

            @iFixit Not surprised. There's money to be made in repairs. BIG money.

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            • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

              BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

              http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
              —
              #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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              #39

              @iFixit They took out a PATENT to protect the shape of their NUTS? These people are so amazingly insecure, it boggles the mind not only of psychiatrists but also of just regular old engineers. 🤷

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              • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
                —
                #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                #40

                @iFixit Perhaps the German car industry isn't as worthy of saving as Ursula vdL thinks.

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                • loki@mastodon.greenL loki@mastodon.green

                  @iFixit 10 weeks and you can buy this bit at Ali Express and temu…

                  Sorry, but times are different today, you can’t f… around like this anymore

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                  #41

                  @Loki @iFixit yes, but how good will those bits be, and how likely to cause a stripped screw, which will then prove warranty denied...

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                  • sloanlance@mastodon.socialS sloanlance@mastodon.social

                    @iFixit
                    How effective are screw extraction bits on the BMW screw? Once the screw is out, replace it with an ordinary one with the same threads and length.

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                    #42

                    @sloanlance @iFixit wouldn't be surprised if there was something nonstandard about the thread direction, pitch or depth.

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                    • phf@dmv.communityP phf@dmv.community

                      @iFixit They took out a PATENT to protect the shape of their NUTS? These people are so amazingly insecure, it boggles the mind not only of psychiatrists but also of just regular old engineers. 🤷

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                      #43

                      @phf @iFixit actually, considering the other slang use of the term 'nuts', this is exactly what they are doing - it's a load of b... Nuts.

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                      • yngmar@social.tchncs.deY yngmar@social.tchncs.de

                        @iFixit Perhaps the German car industry isn't as worthy of saving as Ursula vdL thinks.

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                        #44
                        @yngmar @iFixit I think this stupid screw can be trivially defeated worth pointy pliers
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                        • piggo@piggo.spaceP piggo@piggo.space
                          @yngmar @iFixit I think this stupid screw can be trivially defeated worth pointy pliers
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                          #45

                          @piggo @iFixit I'm not sure what's more offending, the stupid anti-repair design or the horrendous quality of the depicted threads.

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                          • yngmar@social.tchncs.deY yngmar@social.tchncs.de

                            @piggo @iFixit I'm not sure what's more offending, the stupid anti-repair design or the horrendous quality of the depicted threads.

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                            #46

                            @yngmar @piggo @iFixit bit not looking good too 🤔

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                            • mcslibinas@mastodon.socialM mcslibinas@mastodon.social

                              @yngmar @piggo @iFixit bit not looking good too 🤔

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                              #47

                              @mcSlibinas @piggo @iFixit Oh, nevermind, the article says its "A 3D printed screw and matching bit derived from the patent filing (Source: Adafruit)"

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                              • qboq@mas.toQ qboq@mas.to

                                @iFixit I have ridden a BMW motorcycle for years, with the idea that I could do minor maintenance tasks myself (which I did, even with my modest skills). With this kind of corporate bullshit, I will not be buying a BMW anymore.

                                #righttorepair

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                                #48

                                @qboq I've had four BMW motorcycles, three from the 20th century and one from 2007 (still have that one; owned basically since new). Buying expensive parts and the occasional proprietary tool was always frustrating, but with the 2007 they were definitely trending in the "we don't want you working on it" direction. I do my own maintenance, but it elevates my blood pressure every time.

                                For my own sanity, I also have a Moto Guzzi, on which I can adjust the valves in my sleep, with my eyes closed, one hand tied behind my back, etc.

                                @iFixit

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                                • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                                  BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                  http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
                                  —
                                  #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                  #49

                                  @iFixit cylindrical head on the bolt, I'd use a vise grip on it

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                                  • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                                    BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                    http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
                                    —
                                    #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                    #50

                                    @iFixit Just don't buy BMW. It's as simple as that. Big let-down of a car.

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                                    • ukeleleeric@mstdn.socialU ukeleleeric@mstdn.social

                                      @Loki @iFixit yes, but how good will those bits be, and how likely to cause a stripped screw, which will then prove warranty denied...

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                                      #51

                                      @UkeleleEric @Loki @iFixit As good as you want them to be, and are eager to afford. China manufactures from the cheapest items to the most expensive luxury brands these days, so then can make whatever you want, as quick as you want it.

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                                      • dmian@mastodon.socialD dmian@mastodon.social

                                        @UkeleleEric @Loki @iFixit As good as you want them to be, and are eager to afford. China manufactures from the cheapest items to the most expensive luxury brands these days, so then can make whatever you want, as quick as you want it.

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                                        #52

                                        @dmian @UkeleleEric @iFixit you get what you pay.

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                                        • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                                          BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                          http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
                                          —
                                          #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                          #53

                                          @iFixit

                                          Nasty bits! But fun to think of ways to get around it.

                                          Cheap bit: rub top of head with paste wax; apply heat to melt wax; clean sides of head; wrap sides of head with strong strapping tape to make cylinder; fill cylinder with low viscosity epoxy and when it hardens at bit embed 1/4” hex torx bit into epoxy, make sure it ends up in center and pointing straight up.

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