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  3. Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

    If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

    Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

    That's veganism, you're welcome.
    https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

    kbal@fedia.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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    kbal@fedia.io
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    #3

    Surely an “AI vegan” would only use models trained exclusively on data from plants.

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    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

      Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

      If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

      Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

      That's veganism, you're welcome.
      https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

      bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
      bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @jwz I prefer we make up a new clearer and distinct term like "authentist" or "anti-slopper"

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      • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

        @jwz I prefer we make up a new clearer and distinct term like "authentist" or "anti-slopper"

        alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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        alterelefant@mastodontech.de
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        #5

        @Bredroll
        Someone who uses these things could be named an 'ai-er' or 'air' in short.
        @jwz

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        • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

          @Bredroll
          Someone who uses these things could be named an 'ai-er' or 'air' in short.
          @jwz

          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @alterelefant It might work well to coopt "airhead" - "ai-er head"

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          • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

            @alterelefant It might work well to coopt "airhead" - "ai-er head"

            bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
            bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
            bredroll@mas.to
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            #7

            @alterelefant Ohh I just thought of a good insult.

            "stroking the prompt genie"

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            • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

              @alterelefant Ohh I just thought of a good insult.

              "stroking the prompt genie"

              alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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              alterelefant@mastodontech.de
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              #8

              @Bredroll
              Prompt air.

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                That's veganism, you're welcome.
                https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                glassdelusion@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                glassdelusion@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @jwz "Shut up, AI vegan"

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                  If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                  Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                  That's veganism, you're welcome.
                  https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                  jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jaystephens@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #10

                  @jwz
                  I get it, but even if I changed jobs the likelihood of that other job morphing to include AI use is high, so I'm not gonna feel _too_ guilty about doing the task I'm assigned, when it's sometimes literally "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y".

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                    If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                    Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                    That's veganism, you're welcome.
                    https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                    tsvga@ni.hil.istT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @jwz as an actual vegan I've encountered a depressingly high number of vegans who support LLMs because "at least they're not as bad as beef"

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                      If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                      Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                      That's veganism, you're welcome.
                      https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

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                      frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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                      #12

                      @jwz Tech bros are so desperate they are just knocking off doors on every ideology or hastagh they see to sell ai like enciclopedia sellers 😂

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                      • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

                        @jwz
                        I get it, but even if I changed jobs the likelihood of that other job morphing to include AI use is high, so I'm not gonna feel _too_ guilty about doing the task I'm assigned, when it's sometimes literally "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y".

                        desantis@mastodon.bida.imD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        desantis@mastodon.bida.im
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                        #13

                        @jaystephens @jwz > "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y" 🤣 Why can't the person who asked for this do it _themselves_?!?! The amount of laziness and sheer objection to you know, doing this, is fucking ridiculous!

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                          If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                          Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                          That's veganism, you're welcome.
                          https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                          quinn@social.circl.luQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #14

                          @jwz climate changing info hazard polluting fascism machines

                          But I can't really get any of my coding friends to get their heads out of the sand.

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                            If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                            Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                            That's veganism, you're welcome.
                            https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                            pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                            pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                            pelle@veganism.social
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                            #15

                            @jwz
                            they're clearly AI #flexitarian or AI #welfarist.

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                            • tsvga@ni.hil.istT tsvga@ni.hil.ist

                              @jwz as an actual vegan I've encountered a depressingly high number of vegans who support LLMs because "at least they're not as bad as beef"

                              pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              pelle@veganism.social
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                              #16

                              @tsvga
                              that may be true environmentally but it disregards the damage to our brains and to our trust and integrity.

                              it's so depressing that those speaking up for #AnimalLiberation have started pushing #AIslop, because truthfulnes is so important.

                              we will no longer be able to push back on »those #slaughterhouse videos are fake« if videos, photos and texts we're sharing are #disinfo slop half the time.

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                                If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                                Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                                That's veganism, you're welcome.
                                https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                                qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
                                qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
                                qgustavor@urusai.social
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                                #17

                                @jwz I'm impressed no one mentioned the "I use AI but only on my hardware so it's ethical" folks.

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                                • qgustavor@urusai.socialQ qgustavor@urusai.social

                                  @jwz I'm impressed no one mentioned the "I use AI but only on my hardware so it's ethical" folks.

                                  jwz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  jwz@mastodon.social
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                                  #18

                                  @qgustavor Proposal to call those "AI Tradwives".

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                                  • desantis@mastodon.bida.imD desantis@mastodon.bida.im

                                    @jaystephens @jwz > "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y" 🤣 Why can't the person who asked for this do it _themselves_?!?! The amount of laziness and sheer objection to you know, doing this, is fucking ridiculous!

                                    jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    jaystephens@mastodon.social
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                                    #19

                                    @desantis @jwz
                                    The honest answer?
                                    Because the boss who is asking needs to tick off the KPI marked "evidence of AI adoption by my team".

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                                    • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

                                      @desantis @jwz
                                      The honest answer?
                                      Because the boss who is asking needs to tick off the KPI marked "evidence of AI adoption by my team".

                                      desantis@mastodon.bida.imD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      desantis@mastodon.bida.im
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                                      #20

                                      @jaystephens @jwz Fucking figures… Never thought of it that way. This forced feeding of shite technology is priceless when even people closer to the C suite don’t even want to use it 🤣🚮

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                                      • desantis@mastodon.bida.imD desantis@mastodon.bida.im

                                        @jaystephens @jwz Fucking figures… Never thought of it that way. This forced feeding of shite technology is priceless when even people closer to the C suite don’t even want to use it 🤣🚮

                                        jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        jaystephens@mastodon.social
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                                        #21

                                        @desantis @jwz
                                        Yeah there's a combo of cognitive dissonance and the fact that AI is genuinely good at speed running David Graeber bullshit jobs, that is leading to some very weird places...

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                                        • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                                          @tsvga
                                          that may be true environmentally but it disregards the damage to our brains and to our trust and integrity.

                                          it's so depressing that those speaking up for #AnimalLiberation have started pushing #AIslop, because truthfulnes is so important.

                                          we will no longer be able to push back on »those #slaughterhouse videos are fake« if videos, photos and texts we're sharing are #disinfo slop half the time.

                                          recalcitrant@autonomous.zoneR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          recalcitrant@autonomous.zone
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                                          #22

                                          @pelle @tsvga animal agriculture and AI data centers are both parts of the exploitative global capitalist model! We have to resist both!!

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