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  3. Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

    If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

    Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

    That's veganism, you're welcome.
    https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

    bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
    bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @jwz I prefer we make up a new clearer and distinct term like "authentist" or "anti-slopper"

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    • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

      @jwz I prefer we make up a new clearer and distinct term like "authentist" or "anti-slopper"

      alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
      alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
      alterelefant@mastodontech.de
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      #5

      @Bredroll
      Someone who uses these things could be named an 'ai-er' or 'air' in short.
      @jwz

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      • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

        @Bredroll
        Someone who uses these things could be named an 'ai-er' or 'air' in short.
        @jwz

        bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @alterelefant It might work well to coopt "airhead" - "ai-er head"

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        • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

          @alterelefant It might work well to coopt "airhead" - "ai-er head"

          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @alterelefant Ohh I just thought of a good insult.

          "stroking the prompt genie"

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          • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

            @alterelefant Ohh I just thought of a good insult.

            "stroking the prompt genie"

            alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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            alterelefant@mastodontech.de
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            #8

            @Bredroll
            Prompt air.

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            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

              Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

              If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

              Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

              That's veganism, you're welcome.
              https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

              glassdelusion@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              glassdelusion@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @jwz "Shut up, AI vegan"

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                That's veganism, you're welcome.
                https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                jaystephens@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #10

                @jwz
                I get it, but even if I changed jobs the likelihood of that other job morphing to include AI use is high, so I'm not gonna feel _too_ guilty about doing the task I'm assigned, when it's sometimes literally "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y".

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                  If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                  Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                  That's veganism, you're welcome.
                  https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                  tsvga@ni.hil.istT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  tsvga@ni.hil.ist
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #11

                  @jwz as an actual vegan I've encountered a depressingly high number of vegans who support LLMs because "at least they're not as bad as beef"

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                    If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                    Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                    That's veganism, you're welcome.
                    https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

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                    frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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                    #12

                    @jwz Tech bros are so desperate they are just knocking off doors on every ideology or hastagh they see to sell ai like enciclopedia sellers 😂

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                    • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

                      @jwz
                      I get it, but even if I changed jobs the likelihood of that other job morphing to include AI use is high, so I'm not gonna feel _too_ guilty about doing the task I'm assigned, when it's sometimes literally "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y".

                      desantis@mastodon.bida.imD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      desantis@mastodon.bida.im
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                      #13

                      @jaystephens @jwz > "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y" 🤣 Why can't the person who asked for this do it _themselves_?!?! The amount of laziness and sheer objection to you know, doing this, is fucking ridiculous!

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                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                        Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                        If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                        Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                        That's veganism, you're welcome.
                        https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                        quinn@social.circl.luQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @jwz climate changing info hazard polluting fascism machines

                        But I can't really get any of my coding friends to get their heads out of the sand.

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                          If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                          Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                          That's veganism, you're welcome.
                          https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                          pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                          pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                          pelle@veganism.social
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                          #15

                          @jwz
                          they're clearly AI #flexitarian or AI #welfarist.

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                          • tsvga@ni.hil.istT tsvga@ni.hil.ist

                            @jwz as an actual vegan I've encountered a depressingly high number of vegans who support LLMs because "at least they're not as bad as beef"

                            pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            pelle@veganism.social
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                            #16

                            @tsvga
                            that may be true environmentally but it disregards the damage to our brains and to our trust and integrity.

                            it's so depressing that those speaking up for #AnimalLiberation have started pushing #AIslop, because truthfulnes is so important.

                            we will no longer be able to push back on »those #slaughterhouse videos are fake« if videos, photos and texts we're sharing are #disinfo slop half the time.

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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              Some asshat out here calling themselves an "ethical AI vegan" because they only use corporate AI tools in "uwu smol" ways, and, I dunno, I guess they do a land acknowledgment before they boil a lake or whatever.

                              If anyone is an "AI vegan" it's me -- I don't use these tools at all, ever, because they are unethical. Telling me that they are delicious is not going to make them ethical.

                              Also, I will endlessly berate you about your use.

                              That's veganism, you're welcome.
                              https://jwz.org/b/yk6V

                              qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              qgustavor@urusai.social
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                              #17

                              @jwz I'm impressed no one mentioned the "I use AI but only on my hardware so it's ethical" folks.

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                              • qgustavor@urusai.socialQ qgustavor@urusai.social

                                @jwz I'm impressed no one mentioned the "I use AI but only on my hardware so it's ethical" folks.

                                jwz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                jwz@mastodon.social
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                                #18

                                @qgustavor Proposal to call those "AI Tradwives".

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                                • desantis@mastodon.bida.imD desantis@mastodon.bida.im

                                  @jaystephens @jwz > "get me a CoPilot summary of X in format Y" 🤣 Why can't the person who asked for this do it _themselves_?!?! The amount of laziness and sheer objection to you know, doing this, is fucking ridiculous!

                                  jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  jaystephens@mastodon.social
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                                  #19

                                  @desantis @jwz
                                  The honest answer?
                                  Because the boss who is asking needs to tick off the KPI marked "evidence of AI adoption by my team".

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                                  • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

                                    @desantis @jwz
                                    The honest answer?
                                    Because the boss who is asking needs to tick off the KPI marked "evidence of AI adoption by my team".

                                    desantis@mastodon.bida.imD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    desantis@mastodon.bida.im
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                                    #20

                                    @jaystephens @jwz Fucking figures… Never thought of it that way. This forced feeding of shite technology is priceless when even people closer to the C suite don’t even want to use it 🤣🚮

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                                    • desantis@mastodon.bida.imD desantis@mastodon.bida.im

                                      @jaystephens @jwz Fucking figures… Never thought of it that way. This forced feeding of shite technology is priceless when even people closer to the C suite don’t even want to use it 🤣🚮

                                      jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #21

                                      @desantis @jwz
                                      Yeah there's a combo of cognitive dissonance and the fact that AI is genuinely good at speed running David Graeber bullshit jobs, that is leading to some very weird places...

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                                      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                                        @tsvga
                                        that may be true environmentally but it disregards the damage to our brains and to our trust and integrity.

                                        it's so depressing that those speaking up for #AnimalLiberation have started pushing #AIslop, because truthfulnes is so important.

                                        we will no longer be able to push back on »those #slaughterhouse videos are fake« if videos, photos and texts we're sharing are #disinfo slop half the time.

                                        recalcitrant@autonomous.zoneR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        recalcitrant@autonomous.zone
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                                        #22

                                        @pelle @tsvga animal agriculture and AI data centers are both parts of the exploitative global capitalist model! We have to resist both!!

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                                        • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

                                          @desantis @jwz
                                          Yeah there's a combo of cognitive dissonance and the fact that AI is genuinely good at speed running David Graeber bullshit jobs, that is leading to some very weird places...

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                                          desantis@mastodon.bida.im
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                                          #23

                                          @jaystephens @jwz And don’t forget the ole favorite, one can totally blame AI for shitty work, and sleep well at night knowing they contributed nothing. It’s mind blowing. Oh well, let’s let these people dumb themselves down to the point where they forget how reproduction works and have to ask chatgpt….

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