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  3. 1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class.

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  • legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al

    @rjblaskiewicz I'm assuming it'd be frowned upon if you called those students stupid to their faces, right?

    I do think there's a learning opportunity here though for the kids who didn't use Ai. Like, "Here's Timmy. Timmy used Ai in this class even after everything we talked about. Timmy is exactly the person this class is supposed to prepare you for, the kind of incorrigible simpleton who is impervious to even basic common sense. We will now examine Timmy's broken thought process."

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    @Legit_Spaghetti

    ...Timmy is the type of person you will probably have to fire one day.

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    • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

      @forestfern

      I'm pricing typewriters even as we speak. 🙂

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      #9

      @rjblaskiewicz

      Fingers crossed on a typewriter comeback.

      Not too long ago I watched an interesting documentary on typewriters that featured a man who has a store that provides typewriter maintenance. You may want to call him:

      https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1237367065/

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      • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

        @forestfern

        I'm pricing typewriters even as we speak. 🙂

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        #10

        @forestfern Oh the subculture....I'm learning there is a typewriter subculture. Because of course there is. 🙂

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        • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

          @forestfern Oh the subculture....I'm learning there is a typewriter subculture. Because of course there is. 🙂

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          #11

          @rjblaskiewicz

          My first typewriter class in high school included learning how to type on a manual typewriter. Talk about exercise (!) especially for the pinky fingers.

          Honestly, I miss the machinery, the immediate results, and the careful focus so as to not go through such a time consuming process to correct errors.

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          • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

            @Legit_Spaghetti

            ...Timmy is the type of person you will probably have to fire one day.

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            #12

            @rjblaskiewicz Meet Timmy. Timmy is the dumbest person you'll ever meet, and there are Timmies everywhere. Let's learn more about Timmy and how to deal with him in a way that keeps the destruction he leaves in your life to an absolute minimum.

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            • forestfern@mastodon.socialF forestfern@mastodon.social

              @rjblaskiewicz

              My first typewriter class in high school included learning how to type on a manual typewriter. Talk about exercise (!) especially for the pinky fingers.

              Honestly, I miss the machinery, the immediate results, and the careful focus so as to not go through such a time consuming process to correct errors.

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              #13

              @forestfern We used computers for my typing class. The old guy who taught it had the easiest job in the world. His attitude was "Just try to improve your speed and accuracy on these exercises, and wake me up if there is a fire." We got super competitive, trying to outdo each other's WPM count on the same exercises over and over again. LOL

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              • legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al

                @rjblaskiewicz Meet Timmy. Timmy is the dumbest person you'll ever meet, and there are Timmies everywhere. Let's learn more about Timmy and how to deal with him in a way that keeps the destruction he leaves in your life to an absolute minimum.

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                #14

                @Legit_Spaghetti

                Some people actually aspire to be Timmys by being as lazy as possible, but these people don't realize that they are already Timmys. Because they are Timmys. What I'm saying is that metacognition is not their strong point.

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                • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                  @forestfern Oh the subculture....I'm learning there is a typewriter subculture. Because of course there is. 🙂

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                  #15

                  @forestfern There is a non-zero chance that at this time next year I will be writing here with ribbon ink-stained hands and a ferocious addiction to white-out.

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                  • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                    @forestfern We used computers for my typing class. The old guy who taught it had the easiest job in the world. His attitude was "Just try to improve your speed and accuracy on these exercises, and wake me up if there is a fire." We got super competitive, trying to outdo each other's WPM count on the same exercises over and over again. LOL

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                    #16

                    @rjblaskiewicz I remember those timed typing tests, too. No computers in our classes. I recall I once beat the class that were using the IBM Selectrics (super awesome electric typewriter!) when I used the Royal manual typewriter. There was a certain groove you could get into on those heavy metal typewriters.

                    I forgot about this until you mentioned typewriters tonight. Thank you.

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                    • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                      @forestfern There is a non-zero chance that at this time next year I will be writing here with ribbon ink-stained hands and a ferocious addiction to white-out.

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                      #17

                      @rjblaskiewicz "Ferocious addiction to white-out." Ha! Got a chuckle out of me here. And just like that, I can smell white-out again. *whew*

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                      • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                        1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.

                        From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.

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                        #18

                        @rjblaskiewicz if not typewriters, then perhaps copperplate.

                        (Full disclosure: I'm learning copperplate)

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                        • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                          1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.

                          From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.

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                          #19

                          @rjblaskiewicz typewriters? Why not hand written? I know teachers who do 100% of writing assignments in class, with pen & paper.

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                          • lastofthem@mastodon-belgium.beL lastofthem@mastodon-belgium.be

                            @rjblaskiewicz typewriters? Why not hand written? I know teachers who do 100% of writing assignments in class, with pen & paper.

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                            @lastofthem Because you’d have to read their godforsaken handwriting later?

                            These are kids who probably haven’t written anything since kindergarten.

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                            • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                              @lastofthem Because you’d have to read their godforsaken handwriting later?

                              These are kids who probably haven’t written anything since kindergarten.

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                              @drahardja @lastofthem I wonder if it would not be useful, for deciphering handwriting, to use ... an AI...
                              🤪

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                              • legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al

                                @rjblaskiewicz I'm assuming it'd be frowned upon if you called those students stupid to their faces, right?

                                I do think there's a learning opportunity here though for the kids who didn't use Ai. Like, "Here's Timmy. Timmy used Ai in this class even after everything we talked about. Timmy is exactly the person this class is supposed to prepare you for, the kind of incorrigible simpleton who is impervious to even basic common sense. We will now examine Timmy's broken thought process."

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                                #22

                                @Legit_Spaghetti @rjblaskiewicz and we will now dissect Timmy's paper phrase by phrase to examine why he has failed.
                                When I was at uni the main, and very minor, concern was occasional light plagiarism. Now it seems as if it's a whole fiction industry.

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                                • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                                  @forestfern There is a non-zero chance that at this time next year I will be writing here with ribbon ink-stained hands and a ferocious addiction to white-out.

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                                  #23

                                  @rjblaskiewicz @forestfern ferocious addiction to white-out. My first band name.

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                                  • lastofthem@mastodon-belgium.beL lastofthem@mastodon-belgium.be

                                    @rjblaskiewicz typewriters? Why not hand written? I know teachers who do 100% of writing assignments in class, with pen & paper.

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                                    #24

                                    @lastofthem @rjblaskiewicz
                                    My university has gone back to invigilated pen-and-paper exams.

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                                    • ph7831@pouet.chapril.orgP ph7831@pouet.chapril.org

                                      @drahardja @lastofthem I wonder if it would not be useful, for deciphering handwriting, to use ... an AI...
                                      🤪

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                                      #25

                                      @PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem
                                      You'd have to train it on an extensive sample of the writing of every individual student to get reasonably accuracy. We have hundreds of students per class.

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                                      • flipper@mastodonapp.ukF flipper@mastodonapp.uk

                                        @rjblaskiewicz if not typewriters, then perhaps copperplate.

                                        (Full disclosure: I'm learning copperplate)

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                                        #26

                                        @flipper @rjblaskiewicz Have ever tried to decipher dysgraphic's handwriting?

                                        At school we were taught https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Psac%C3%AD_p%C3%ADsmo.gif

                                        I had to customize it to be able to read what I've written...

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                                        • forestfern@mastodon.socialF forestfern@mastodon.social

                                          @rjblaskiewicz

                                          Fingers crossed on a typewriter comeback.

                                          Not too long ago I watched an interesting documentary on typewriters that featured a man who has a store that provides typewriter maintenance. You may want to call him:

                                          https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1237367065/

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                                          #27

                                          @forestfern @rjblaskiewicz Do you know if there are typewriters with Dvorak layout? I'm not going back to QWERTY based layouts...

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