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  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

    When your password leaks:
    → Change your password
    → Problem solved

    When your biometric data leaks:
    → You can't change your face
    → You can't change your fingerprints
    → The compromise is permanent
    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

    j_a_clausen@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    j_a_clausen@mastodon.social
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    #17

    @capitainesam also, those biometric data will inevitably be leaked. One glimmer of hope is that bit rot will render them useless over time

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    • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

      @capitainesam

      > You can't change your face

      Not with that attitude

      starcross@mk.absturztau.beS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @capitainesam@mastodon.social @negative12dollarbill@techhub.social yeah, easy. just get plastic surgery, duhhhhh /j

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      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        mad@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        mad@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        mad@freiburg.social
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        #19

        @capitainesam

        People will find out...

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        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

          When your password leaks:
          → Change your password
          → Problem solved

          When your biometric data leaks:
          → You can't change your face
          → You can't change your fingerprints
          → The compromise is permanent
          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

          starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
          starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
          starkrg@myside-yourside.net
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          #20

          @capitainesam Is it's actually biometric data, it's also tied to the algorithm used to calculate it. Too often, though, companies don't just store the biometric data, but the raw data such as an image of your face. They should not be doing that.

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          • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

            @capitainesam

            > You can't change your face

            Not with that attitude

            fasgadh@mastodon.scotF This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #21

            @negative12dollarbill @capitainesam

            Depends on your climate - here in Scotland is is often just a matter of hours before the wind changes. #Folklaw

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            • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

              @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

              One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

              Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

              erindesu@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #22

              @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

              dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD 1 Reply Last reply
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              • manchicken@defcon.socialM manchicken@defcon.social

                @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

                tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #23

                @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social shared this topic
                • erindesu@tech.lgbtE erindesu@tech.lgbt

                  @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

                  dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #24

                  @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                    @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

                    ananas@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #25

                    @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                    • ananas@mstdn.socialA ananas@mstdn.social

                      @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

                      dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #26

                      @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                        When your password leaks:
                        → Change your password
                        → Problem solved

                        When your biometric data leaks:
                        → You can't change your face
                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                        → The compromise is permanent
                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                        john_loader@ohai.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #27

                        @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                          When your password leaks:
                          → Change your password
                          → Problem solved

                          When your biometric data leaks:
                          → You can't change your face
                          → You can't change your fingerprints
                          → The compromise is permanent
                          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                          jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #28

                          @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                            When your password leaks:
                            → Change your password
                            → Problem solved

                            When your biometric data leaks:
                            → You can't change your face
                            → You can't change your fingerprints
                            → The compromise is permanent
                            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                            casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
                            casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
                            casandro@f-ckendehoelle.de
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                            #29

                            @capitainesam Well yes, but you constantly leak your biometric data anyhow. That's why one should _never_ use it for authentication.

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                            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                              When your password leaks:
                              → Change your password
                              → Problem solved

                              When your biometric data leaks:
                              → You can't change your face
                              → You can't change your fingerprints
                              → The compromise is permanent
                              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                              mhs_jenkins@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #30

                              @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                When your password leaks:
                                → Change your password
                                → Problem solved

                                When your biometric data leaks:
                                → You can't change your face
                                → You can't change your fingerprints
                                → The compromise is permanent
                                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #31

                                @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                  When your password leaks:
                                  → Change your password
                                  → Problem solved

                                  When your biometric data leaks:
                                  → You can't change your face
                                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                                  → The compromise is permanent
                                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                  joat@mastodon.scotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #32

                                  @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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                                  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                                    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                                    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                                    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                                    mercutio@troet.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    mercutio@troet.cafe
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #33

                                    @dancingtreefrog
                                    Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                                    @capitainesam

                                    marco_m_aus_f@freiburg.socialM yura@udongein.xyzY chloeraccoon@mastodonapp.ukC 3 Replies Last reply
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                                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                      When your password leaks:
                                      → Change your password
                                      → Problem solved

                                      When your biometric data leaks:
                                      → You can't change your face
                                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                                      → The compromise is permanent
                                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                      muzicofiel@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      muzicofiel@mastodon.nl
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #34

                                      @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                        When your password leaks:
                                        → Change your password
                                        → Problem solved

                                        When your biometric data leaks:
                                        → You can't change your face
                                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                                        → The compromise is permanent
                                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                        capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        capitainesam@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #35

                                        🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                        Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                        More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                        Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                          🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                          Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                          More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                          Here's what I'm doing about it:

                                          capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #36

                                          I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                          ❌ Facial recognition
                                          ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                          ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                          Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                                          capitainesam@mastodon.socialC emilyenco@todon.nlE 2 Replies Last reply
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