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  • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

    @capitainesam

    > You can't change your face

    Not with that attitude

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    #21

    @negative12dollarbill @capitainesam

    Depends on your climate - here in Scotland is is often just a matter of hours before the wind changes. #Folklaw

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    • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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      #22

      @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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      • manchicken@defcon.socialM manchicken@defcon.social

        @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

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        #23

        @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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        • erindesu@tech.lgbtE erindesu@tech.lgbt

          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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          #24

          @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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          • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

            @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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            #25

            @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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            • ananas@mstdn.socialA ananas@mstdn.social

              @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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              #26

              @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                #27

                @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #28

                  @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                    When your password leaks:
                    → Change your password
                    → Problem solved

                    When your biometric data leaks:
                    → You can't change your face
                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                    → The compromise is permanent
                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                    #29

                    @capitainesam Well yes, but you constantly leak your biometric data anyhow. That's why one should _never_ use it for authentication.

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                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                      When your password leaks:
                      → Change your password
                      → Problem solved

                      When your biometric data leaks:
                      → You can't change your face
                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                      → The compromise is permanent
                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                      mhs_jenkins@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #30

                      @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                        When your password leaks:
                        → Change your password
                        → Problem solved

                        When your biometric data leaks:
                        → You can't change your face
                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                        → The compromise is permanent
                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                        #31

                        @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                          When your password leaks:
                          → Change your password
                          → Problem solved

                          When your biometric data leaks:
                          → You can't change your face
                          → You can't change your fingerprints
                          → The compromise is permanent
                          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                          #32

                          @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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                          • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                            @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                            One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                            Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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                            #33

                            @dancingtreefrog
                            Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                            @capitainesam

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                            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                              When your password leaks:
                              → Change your password
                              → Problem solved

                              When your biometric data leaks:
                              → You can't change your face
                              → You can't change your fingerprints
                              → The compromise is permanent
                              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                              #34

                              @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                When your password leaks:
                                → Change your password
                                → Problem solved

                                When your biometric data leaks:
                                → You can't change your face
                                → You can't change your fingerprints
                                → The compromise is permanent
                                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #35

                                🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                  🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                  Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                  More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                  Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                                  #36

                                  I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                  ❌ Facial recognition
                                  ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                  ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                  Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                    I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                    ❌ Facial recognition
                                    ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                    ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                    Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                                    #37

                                    Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                    No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                    No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                    No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                    Simple.

                                    capitainesam@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC 2 Replies Last reply
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                                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                      Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                      No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                      No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                      No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                      Simple.

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                                      #38

                                      We're launching March 2026.

                                      Features:
                                      ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                      ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                      ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                      ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                      ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                        We're launching March 2026.

                                        Features:
                                        ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                        ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                        ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                        ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                        ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                                        #39

                                        If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

                                        Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

                                        Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
                                        👉 https://snugg.social

                                        No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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                                        • jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ jacobgorm@sigmoid.social

                                          @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                                          #40

                                          @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

                                          “Profile photo”

                                          “We all”

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