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  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

    @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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    #25

    @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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    • ananas@mstdn.socialA ananas@mstdn.social

      @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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      #26

      @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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        #27

        @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

          When your password leaks:
          → Change your password
          → Problem solved

          When your biometric data leaks:
          → You can't change your face
          → You can't change your fingerprints
          → The compromise is permanent
          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

          jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #28

          @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

            When your password leaks:
            → Change your password
            → Problem solved

            When your biometric data leaks:
            → You can't change your face
            → You can't change your fingerprints
            → The compromise is permanent
            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

            casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #29

            @capitainesam Well yes, but you constantly leak your biometric data anyhow. That's why one should _never_ use it for authentication.

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            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

              When your password leaks:
              → Change your password
              → Problem solved

              When your biometric data leaks:
              → You can't change your face
              → You can't change your fingerprints
              → The compromise is permanent
              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

              mhs_jenkins@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #30

              @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                #31

                @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  joat@mastodon.scotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #32

                  @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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                  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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                    #33

                    @dancingtreefrog
                    Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                    @capitainesam

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                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                      When your password leaks:
                      → Change your password
                      → Problem solved

                      When your biometric data leaks:
                      → You can't change your face
                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                      → The compromise is permanent
                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                      #34

                      @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                        When your password leaks:
                        → Change your password
                        → Problem solved

                        When your biometric data leaks:
                        → You can't change your face
                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                        → The compromise is permanent
                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                        #35

                        🧵 So what can you do about it?

                        Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                        More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                        Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                          🧵 So what can you do about it?

                          Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                          More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                          Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                          #36

                          I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                          ❌ Facial recognition
                          ❌ Fingerprint scans
                          ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                          Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                            I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                            ❌ Facial recognition
                            ❌ Fingerprint scans
                            ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                            Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                            capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #37

                            Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                            No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                            No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                            No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                            Simple.

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                            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                              Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                              No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                              No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                              No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                              Simple.

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                              #38

                              We're launching March 2026.

                              Features:
                              ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                              ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                              ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                              ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                              ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                We're launching March 2026.

                                Features:
                                ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                                #39

                                If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

                                Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

                                Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
                                👉 https://snugg.social

                                No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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                                • jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ jacobgorm@sigmoid.social

                                  @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                                  #40

                                  @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

                                  “Profile photo”

                                  “We all”

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                                  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                                    @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

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                                    #41

                                    @dancingtreefrog
                                    This might help, it's shake and lock feature to be exact:
                                    https://f-droid.org/packages/com.paranoid.privacylock

                                    Android advanced security also has this feature, but it adds blocking non-Play app installs and updates.

                                    @capitainesam

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                                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                      I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                      ❌ Facial recognition
                                      ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                      ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                      Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                                      #42

                                      @capitainesam looks like you tagged a random person.

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                                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                        When your password leaks:
                                        → Change your password
                                        → Problem solved

                                        When your biometric data leaks:
                                        → You can't change your face
                                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                                        → The compromise is permanent
                                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                                        #43

                                        @capitainesam One of the 1.000.000.000 reasons.

                                        Same with ID. It has a biometric photo on it. If scanned accurately, it can, AND WILL, be used to identify you.

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                                        • ill_logic@mastodon.socialI ill_logic@mastodon.social

                                          @jfml @capitainesam I would hope that your phone takes a "fingerprint" of your fingerprint, i.e. enough to verify but not reconstruct.

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                                          #44

                                          @ill_logic @jfml @capitainesam every proper implementation hashes the fingerprint, just like you don't store clear text passwords in the shadow file...

                                          The question is, is this a proper implementation on phones...

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