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  3. Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

    Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

    Think about it

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    @eniko @EUCommission honestly that would be pretty cool

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @anthrazit don't think chrome in a different jacket buys a lot of sovereignty

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      @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

        Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

        Think about it

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        #44

        @eniko @EUCommission the name EuroFox is right there

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        • flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF flyingpenguin@infosec.exchange

          @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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          @flyingpenguin @eniko

          Great link, thanks a lot.

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          • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

            @Brokar @eniko @EUCommission How do you feel about DuckDuckGo, which is the browser I use?

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            #46

            @connynasch @Brokar @eniko @EUCommission Nutz lieber Firefox Klar. Firefox Focus!

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

              Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

              Think about it

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              #47

              @eniko @EUCommission Mullvad Browser ( and VPN )

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              • flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF flyingpenguin@infosec.exchange

                @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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                #48

                @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

                2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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                • einsiedlerspiel@todon.nlE einsiedlerspiel@todon.nl

                  @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                  1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

                  2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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                  #49

                  @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                  ad blocking and browser coming from different vendors is a _feature_, not something to be fixed in my book.

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                    Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                    Think about it

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                    #50

                    @eniko @EUCommission

                    https://mullvad.net/de/browser

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                    • turre@mementomori.socialT turre@mementomori.social

                      @hiphopheaven @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission
                      Vivaldi is not open-source. No matter how good the intentions of current Vivaldi leadership, without the source you're forever the hostage.

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                      #51

                      @Turre @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission i don't care. Ipensourceness is just a bonus for me, features over opensourceness. Most projects end up with no relevant fork and an owner that decide to reject features they don't see fit

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                      • einsiedlerspiel@todon.nlE einsiedlerspiel@todon.nl

                        @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                        1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

                        2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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                        #52

                        @einsiedlerspiel @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                        From Microsoft (HTML Standard ) to Google ( Manifest )

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                          Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                          Think about it

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                          @eniko @EUCommission you may want to address @EC_OSPO

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                          • allende1973@todon.nlA allende1973@todon.nl

                            @eniko @EUCommission

                            Bad idea.

                            The EU commission woul build spyware into it to supply intelligence to Israel.

                            And it would ban Palestinians and Iranians from using it, because of zionist sanctions.

                            Why?

                            Because the EU is a zionist tool.

                            The answer is to free Firefox, not to swap abusive owner.

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                            @allende1973 @eniko @EUCommission Hab den Beitrag Mastodon gemeldet.

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