If you’re still using Proton mail:

[slothrop@chaos.social]

RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

If you’re still using Proton mail:

The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

#proton #fash

[nileane@nileane.fr]

@slothrop far-right/fascist*, not just right-wing

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@nileane fixed. Thanks!

[uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net]

@slothrop

no, they aren't. This is some algorhithm putting the ads there.

[tempusfelix@wehavecookies.social]

@slothrop

Oh ffs. Is there a service provider who isn’t fash or fash adjacent? Idonly just managed to migrate away from gmail!

[theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social]

@nileane @slothrop I don't know who this is, can you fill me in? I didn't get a very clear picture from the Firefox translation of their Wikipedia page.

[willegible@mastodon.ie]

@slothrop It looks to me like Lapierre joined Proton's 'influencers' programme (https://proton.me/partners). The most charitable interpretation is that Proton perform no real vetting on the 'influencers' who apply and are unaware of their content. That charitable interpretation is bad enough. The less charitable interpretations, of course, are that Proton don't care about or even endorse their content. Needless to say, even the most charitable interpretation is unacceptable.

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@theeclecticdyslexic one of France’s most famous right-wing extremist YouTubers.

Not someone I’d want to see my service providers associating with.

@nileane

[theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social]

@slothrop @nileane I see. Can you recommend any reading I can reference in a support ticket, while I see how they respond?

I have already paid ahead for a year so, even if I swap today my money is already in their hands for services I paid up front for. I would prefer to pressure them by threatening I can take my money with me on my next payment date, rather than silently leaving without explaining why.

[hcf@infosec.exchange]

@willegible @slothrop So, if I post their affiliation link somewhere in hope to get a discount, would I be also officially sponsored by Proton? Ooh, so exciting…

[mimesatwork@wandering.shop]

@tempusfelix @slothrop For now, Tutamail. Mailo also seems ok, but tbh, being a non-entity doesn't necessarily mean the company is fine, just means there's currently no evidence of fascism

[willegible@mastodon.ie]

@hcf @slothrop The thing that sets you apart from Lapierre there is that he was accepted into their influencer programme and given a custom public referral link. Oh, and I confidently assume, also that you're not a pustulent shitbag.

[nileane@nileane.fr]

@internic @slothrop @uriel Correct, it’s a proper sponsorship, with a sponsor segment in the video, and with a custom public referral link to his name in the description

[lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net]

@slothrop

Which one ?

[nando161@partyon.xyz]

@lienrag @slothrop https://riseup.net/en

[lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net]

@nando161

Sure, RiseUp is very good, and much more trustworthy¹ than Proton.
They're not playing in the same category.
But Riseup is invitation-only, and from what I've been told, they don't provide new tokens (to invite people) anymore.
It's not a general-purpose resource like Proton is, but a (very useful) service dedicated for militants.

¹note though that their privacy canary is dead; I understand why they don't put a new one on, but it's still a problem

@slothrop

[nando161@partyon.xyz]

@lienrag @slothrop I still have an account as I'm still a militant antifascist anarchist.

[hcf@infosec.exchange]

@willegible @slothrop I can be pretty annoying sometimes to some people

[lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net]

@nando161

Yes, existing accounts are still working.
But can you still generate tokens ?
(genuine question)

@slothrop

[uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net]

@internic @slothrop you know perfectly this is not how advertisement on ads work... bye