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  • nileane@nileane.frN nileane@nileane.fr

    @slothrop far-right/fascist*, not just right-wing

    slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @nileane fixed. Thanks!

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    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

      RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

      If you’re still using Proton mail:

      The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

      If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

      UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

      #proton #fash

      uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @slothrop

      no, they aren't. This is some algorhithm putting the ads there.

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      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

        If you’re still using Proton mail:

        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

        #proton #fash

        tempusfelix@wehavecookies.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @slothrop

        Oh ffs. Is there a service provider who isn’t fash or fash adjacent? Idonly just managed to migrate away from gmail!

        mimesatwork@wandering.shopM ratfactor@mastodon.artR unitarybennu@mastodon.socialU labtoast@social.nouveau.communityL 4 Replies Last reply
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        • nileane@nileane.frN nileane@nileane.fr

          @slothrop far-right/fascist*, not just right-wing

          theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @nileane @slothrop I don't know who this is, can you fill me in? I didn't get a very clear picture from the Firefox translation of their Wikipedia page.

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          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

            RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

            If you’re still using Proton mail:

            The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

            If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

            UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

            #proton #fash

            willegible@mastodon.ieW This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @slothrop It looks to me like Lapierre joined Proton's 'influencers' programme (https://proton.me/partners). The most charitable interpretation is that Proton perform no real vetting on the 'influencers' who apply and are unaware of their content. That charitable interpretation is bad enough. The less charitable interpretations, of course, are that Proton don't care about or even endorse their content. Needless to say, even the most charitable interpretation is unacceptable.

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            • theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.socialT theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social

              @nileane @slothrop I don't know who this is, can you fill me in? I didn't get a very clear picture from the Firefox translation of their Wikipedia page.

              slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @theeclecticdyslexic one of France’s most famous right-wing extremist YouTubers.

              Not someone I’d want to see my service providers associating with.

              @nileane

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              • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                @theeclecticdyslexic one of France’s most famous right-wing extremist YouTubers.

                Not someone I’d want to see my service providers associating with.

                @nileane

                theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @slothrop @nileane I see. Can you recommend any reading I can reference in a support ticket, while I see how they respond?

                I have already paid ahead for a year so, even if I swap today my money is already in their hands for services I paid up front for. I would prefer to pressure them by threatening I can take my money with me on my next payment date, rather than silently leaving without explaining why.

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                • willegible@mastodon.ieW willegible@mastodon.ie

                  @slothrop It looks to me like Lapierre joined Proton's 'influencers' programme (https://proton.me/partners). The most charitable interpretation is that Proton perform no real vetting on the 'influencers' who apply and are unaware of their content. That charitable interpretation is bad enough. The less charitable interpretations, of course, are that Proton don't care about or even endorse their content. Needless to say, even the most charitable interpretation is unacceptable.

                  hcf@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @willegible @slothrop So, if I post their affiliation link somewhere in hope to get a discount, would I be also officially sponsored by Proton? Ooh, so exciting…

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                  • tempusfelix@wehavecookies.socialT tempusfelix@wehavecookies.social

                    @slothrop

                    Oh ffs. Is there a service provider who isn’t fash or fash adjacent? Idonly just managed to migrate away from gmail!

                    mimesatwork@wandering.shopM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @tempusfelix @slothrop For now, Tutamail. Mailo also seems ok, but tbh, being a non-entity doesn't necessarily mean the company is fine, just means there's currently no evidence of fascism

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                    • hcf@infosec.exchangeH hcf@infosec.exchange

                      @willegible @slothrop So, if I post their affiliation link somewhere in hope to get a discount, would I be also officially sponsored by Proton? Ooh, so exciting…

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                      #12

                      @hcf @slothrop The thing that sets you apart from Lapierre there is that he was accepted into their influencer programme and given a custom public referral link. Oh, and I confidently assume, also that you're not a pustulent shitbag.

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                      • nileane@nileane.frN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @internic @slothrop @uriel Correct, it’s a proper sponsorship, with a sponsor segment in the video, and with a custom public referral link to his name in the description

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                        • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                          RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                          If you’re still using Proton mail:

                          The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                          If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                          UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                          #proton #fash

                          lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #14

                          @slothrop

                          Which one ?

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                          • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

                            @slothrop

                            Which one ?

                            nando161@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #15

                            @lienrag @slothrop https://riseup.net/en

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                            • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

                              @lienrag @slothrop https://riseup.net/en

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                              #16

                              @nando161

                              Sure, RiseUp is very good, and much more trustworthy¹ than Proton.
                              They're not playing in the same category.
                              But Riseup is invitation-only, and from what I've been told, they don't provide new tokens (to invite people) anymore.
                              It's not a general-purpose resource like Proton is, but a (very useful) service dedicated for militants.

                              ¹note though that their privacy canary is dead; I understand why they don't put a new one on, but it's still a problem

                              @slothrop

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                              • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

                                @nando161

                                Sure, RiseUp is very good, and much more trustworthy¹ than Proton.
                                They're not playing in the same category.
                                But Riseup is invitation-only, and from what I've been told, they don't provide new tokens (to invite people) anymore.
                                It's not a general-purpose resource like Proton is, but a (very useful) service dedicated for militants.

                                ¹note though that their privacy canary is dead; I understand why they don't put a new one on, but it's still a problem

                                @slothrop

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                                #17

                                @lienrag @slothrop I still have an account as I'm still a militant antifascist anarchist.

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                                • willegible@mastodon.ieW willegible@mastodon.ie

                                  @hcf @slothrop The thing that sets you apart from Lapierre there is that he was accepted into their influencer programme and given a custom public referral link. Oh, and I confidently assume, also that you're not a pustulent shitbag.

                                  hcf@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #18

                                  @willegible @slothrop I can be pretty annoying sometimes to some people 🤣

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                                  • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

                                    @lienrag @slothrop I still have an account as I'm still a militant antifascist anarchist.

                                    lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #19

                                    @nando161

                                    Yes, existing accounts are still working.
                                    But can you still generate tokens ?
                                    (genuine question)

                                    @slothrop

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                                    • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #20

                                      @internic @slothrop you know perfectly this is not how advertisement on ads work... bye

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                                      • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

                                        @nando161

                                        Yes, existing accounts are still working.
                                        But can you still generate tokens ?
                                        (genuine question)

                                        @slothrop

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                                        #21

                                        @lienrag @slothrop I assume so, I will login today and make sure I can though.

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                                        • mimesatwork@wandering.shopM mimesatwork@wandering.shop

                                          @tempusfelix @slothrop For now, Tutamail. Mailo also seems ok, but tbh, being a non-entity doesn't necessarily mean the company is fine, just means there's currently no evidence of fascism

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                                          #22

                                          @Mimesatwork @tempusfelix @slothrop

                                          @Tutanota (tutamail) is on Fedi.

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