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  3. We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

    We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

    We are not wiser.

    durrendal@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @Daojoan well put. Information is just a tool and doesn't define wisdom at all. We still need to contemplate it's use, act upon it, and habituate that action to become wise.

    In the age of LLMs it's easier than ever to jump straight to an "I sound wise" solution without the slightest modicum of depth and the result. Aristotle pointed to this same problem in Nicomachean Ethics when he discussed craft labor and Phronesis and drew the same conclusions.

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

      We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

      We are not wiser.

      nmba@mstdn.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @Daojoan
      It was working when the internet was free. For example twitter was a wonderful tool for information sharing and learning until the fascist oligarchy realized that a wiser citizenry is not in their favour, now it is for disinformation and thought control.

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

        We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

        We are not wiser.

        androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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        androcat@toot.cat
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        #15

        @Daojoan

        Actual wisdom: "Know how to recognize fascists, so you can fuck them up"

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

          We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

          We are not wiser.

          renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @Daojoan This is the main thing I'm wrestling with as I work to contiinue loving humanity honestly.

          It's relevant to note that the information age is still very young however. There's a huge proportion of the population still who grew up without it.

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

            We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

            We are not wiser.

            trixiemaina@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            trixiemaina@mstdn.social
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            #17

            @Daojoan We built libraries in our pockets, but forgot to build discernment in our minds...

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

              We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

              We are not wiser.

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              sometimeslovely@mas.to
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              #18

              @Daojoan
              Knowledge

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                We are not wiser.

                catsalad@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #19

                @Daojoan It is, however, the golden age of cat photos!

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                  We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                  We are not wiser.

                  h1trex@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #20

                  @Daojoan I wouldn't say we did not get wiser. The added wisdom is just used to make more profits for the few, than better lifes for the many

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                    We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                    We are not wiser.

                    stevefoerster@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #21

                    @Daojoan Even back in the late '90s the joke was: "We used to think that if you had infinite monkeys banging away on typewriters that one would eventually produce the works of Shakespeare, but now we have the Internet and know that's not so."

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                      We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                      We are not wiser.

                      pier@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #22

                      @Daojoan

                      We are unquestionably wiser*

                      The fact that a relatively small number of bad actors have used the tools of information to build obscene wealth and power for themselves doesn’t negate our wisdom, but it does expose the vulnerability of our social structure which, I think, is based on an assumption that the many good people can/will stop the few bad.

                      So wiser, or better informed, doesn’t necessarily mean we automatically have a better society.

                      *In my opinion. Not claiming to be the sole arbiter of wisdom, etc.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                        We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                        We are not wiser.

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                        #23

                        @Daojoan That really isn't the fault of the people reading the information. No-one made the caveat 'you have all this information, but you need to avoid everything eye-catching, engaging, or anything that speaks your language to find the truth'.

                        It's entirely the fault of the parasites abusing the free-information paradise to spread brain rotting dark pattern ruled social spaces and political brainwashing.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                          We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                          We are not wiser.

                          clickhere@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          clickhere@mastodon.ie
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                          #24

                          @Daojoan

                          noise vs. sound

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                            We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                            We are not wiser.

                            _ryekdarkener_@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                            _ryekdarkener_@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                            _ryekdarkener_@mastodon.social
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                            #25

                            @Daojoan

                            Because we do not want to.

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