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Do big tech companies understand consent?

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  • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

    Do big tech companies understand consent?

    bensmith@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    @jonah “Maybe Later”

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    • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

      Do big tech companies understand consent?

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      #10

      @jonah
      Do the lawyers of tech companies?

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      • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

        Do big tech companies understand consent?

        nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @jonah Imagine being those handful of people who actually clicked yes.

        (Well, I suppose most did it as a joke, but something just makes me feel like a few actually legitimately believed it as they clicked yes.)

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        • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

          @jonah Facebook has that policy where if you type "I declare that I do not give my permission for Meta to use my personal data for any purposes" then they can't use it

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          #12

          @tom @jonah Hahahahahahahahaha.

          Sure.

          (Jokes and the fact they wouldn't really honor such a thing aside though, be careful. This smacks of one of those things people say that go around like a chain letter where everyone just does it and believes it works but it was never even an official statement in the first place. You couldn't trust them if they said they'd do this, but did they even actually say it?)

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          • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

            Do big tech companies understand consent?

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            #13

            @jonah I was close to voting ‘yes’ because… they absolutely do understand consent. They just refuse to acknowledge it as a concept.

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            • carloshr@lile.clC carloshr@lile.cl

              @jonah I'm sure they do. But they don't care.

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              #14

              @carloshr @jonah I wonder these days. I'm starting to think they legitimately don't get it. Like they actually think this is normal and ok. I mean I could be wrong, it's just a gut feeling, but still... I legit think that at least some believe "remind me in five days" is a normal legitimate response. Like they're giving us a chance to change our minds because they're so sure we'll definitely do it or something (as if really, all along, we want to do it, but just not right this moment so need a reminder to come back to it.)

              I mean some, not all.

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              • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                @jonah yes, of course the Tech companies understand consent. That's why they never give you the option to say NO I DON'T CONSENT.

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                #15

                @marjolica @jonah yeah they wouldn't be able to remove consent from everything if they didn't understand it.

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                • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

                  @tom @jonah Hahahahahahahahaha.

                  Sure.

                  (Jokes and the fact they wouldn't really honor such a thing aside though, be careful. This smacks of one of those things people say that go around like a chain letter where everyone just does it and believes it works but it was never even an official statement in the first place. You couldn't trust them if they said they'd do this, but did they even actually say it?)

                  moss@kind.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #16

                  @nazokiyoubinbou @tom @jonah lol exactly

                  snopes says it's bullshit

                  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/facebook-60-minutes-personal-data/

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                  • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                    Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                    #17

                    @jonah understand? Yup
                    Care? Nope

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                    • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                      Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                      #18

                      @jonah They fully understand consent. They just don't care about it.

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                      • moss@kind.socialM moss@kind.social

                        @nazokiyoubinbou @tom @jonah lol exactly

                        snopes says it's bullshit

                        https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/facebook-60-minutes-personal-data/

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                        #19

                        @moss @tom @jonah Looks like that confirms that whether or not any official statement was ever made regarding this it would have absolutely no legal standing (meaning they could disregard it at any time anyway.)

                        I think there are some opt out options in some privacy settings in the actual settings (not just making a post) but in the end, just assume Meta collects every byte of info they can about you and sell it and use it to manipulate you no matter what you do. Regardless of whether it is legal to do so or not and regardless of what you say. This is not exactly a secret thing... It's just what they are.

                        Remember too, they use cross-site tracking, IP addresses, phone apps, etc etc to cross track. If you're in, they have you. If a family member or friend is in, they have you.

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                        • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                          Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                          #20

                          @jonah Please do this poll again in 5 days.

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                          • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                            Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                            #21

                            @jonah Legitimate interest.

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                            • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                              Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                              #22

                              @jonah every last employee at a big tech company has to go thru annual training on consent and sexual harassment to comply with US and local/state laws. They 100% understand consent

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                              • yetzt@social.yetzt.meY yetzt@social.yetzt.me

                                @jonah i've seen this poll already, like 5 days ago.

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                                #23

                                @yetzt don’t worry, we’ll be sure to poll again in another 5 days too

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                                • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                                  Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                                  #24

                                  @jonah ok, whose the wise guy who voted "yes" on this?

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                                  • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                                    Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                                    #25

                                    @jonah tbh, 5 days is pretty much. Normally, it is like 2 days or even 6 hours. It's like a check, if you're still alive and attending

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                                    • jonah@mastodon.neat.computerJ jonah@mastodon.neat.computer

                                      Do big tech companies understand consent?

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                                      #26

                                      @jonah no!

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                                      • criticalsilence@social.tchncs.deC criticalsilence@social.tchncs.de

                                        @jonah tbh, 5 days is pretty much. Normally, it is like 2 days or even 6 hours. It's like a check, if you're still alive and attending

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                                        #27

                                        @CriticalSilence true, I have an app now that lets me disable notifications for 6 hours, and if you disable notifications in the OS then the app refuses to function 🫨

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                                        • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                                          @jonah yes, of course the Tech companies understand consent. That's why they never give you the option to say NO I DON'T CONSENT.

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                                          #28

                                          @marjolica @jonah Exactly this.

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