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  • drmorrisj@mastodon.socialD drmorrisj@mastodon.social

    @tiredbun @nixCraft so... you were in fact defending the equivocation fallacy and have decided that if you cry hard enough somebody will say that you are correct? To bring it back into the realm of logic, the DOT com bubble was also overinflated. Therefore, according to your rules, the internet is speculative.

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    #51
    @drmorrisj @nixCraft

    Something having or not having speculative or overinflated value doesn't explicitly mean it will forever be that way. Internet is irrelevant here.

    Though I recognise I (especially in my first reply, in which I noted that definition you gave still seems to fit AI in my opinion) and nixcraft may be technically wrong for using a specific term instead of another it doesn't exactly mean much for the actual point, is what I want to say.
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    • tiredbun@akko.wtfT tiredbun@akko.wtf
      @drmorrisj @nixCraft

      Something having or not having speculative or overinflated value doesn't explicitly mean it will forever be that way. Internet is irrelevant here.

      Though I recognise I (especially in my first reply, in which I noted that definition you gave still seems to fit AI in my opinion) and nixcraft may be technically wrong for using a specific term instead of another it doesn't exactly mean much for the actual point, is what I want to say.
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      #52

      @tiredbun @nixCraft The difference between us is simple: I build the models, so I define them by what they do. You dislike the tech, so you define it by how it feels.

      ​Admitting you are "technically wrong" while claiming it "doesn't matter" is just a long-winded way of saying you are arguing from emotion. Next time you see a "ghost" in the machine, remember the math you could not be arsed to learn.

      ​Good luck with the content warnings

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

        It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

        For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

        #ai #llm

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        #53

        @nixCraft holy shit. I heard about this, but I figured it was a few boos here and there. Dude got shouted out. Love to see it! Fuck that guy.

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

          It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

          For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

          #ai #llm

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          #54

          @nixCraft I think he may be confused; he conflated a next token generator with the entire concept of science.

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

            It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

            For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

            #ai #llm

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            #55

            @nixCraft
            Has he tried giving the speech to chat bots that are pretending to be graduating college? Might be a more receptive and sycophantic audience for him.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

              It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

              For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

              #ai #llm

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              #56

              @nixCraft

              He’s such a smug shit too. Each of the speakers that have gone viral are absolutely clueless..

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              • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                @ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft thinking about that Romanian dictator at the fall of Communism who had the whole crowd before him turn and he just didn't know what to do, the impudence paralysed him.

                Didn't they finish him off in the end?

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                #57

                @Lazarou @ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft Yup, Nicolae Ceaușescu. They executed him in 1989. His former palace is so large that the Romanian Parliament and a museum is inside with quite a bit of room left over

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  AI leaders like him and their AI companies are highly speculative and profit from that speculation in billions each yeer, while ordinary people like us and the kids in this video who boo and make similar speculations are called alarmists or Luddites.

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                  #58

                  @nixCraft to the gallows with thee, draw and quarter them all in the streets like the villians they have decided to become.

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                  • maxotaf@mastodon.gamedev.placeM maxotaf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @hannorein CEOs with that sociopathic mindset where they can't comprehend the world telling them no

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                    #59

                    @maxotaf @hannorein pretty apt considering this dude has who knows how many NDAs he's had women sign to get paid out for his inability to control his hands.
                    Guy with an orgy shower in one of his mansions has some thoughts on consent. Yikes. At least he's consistent.

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                      It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                      For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                      #ai #llm

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                      #60

                      @nixCraft Computers, to cell phones, to AI; #TechBros vying to own more of your production, through pure parasitism. Imagine that. 'Pure #Capitalism.

                      Graduate #FossilFuels #Oligarchy #TechBros with #sustainability #scientists

                      #DemocraticSocialism #Revolution

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                        It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                        For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                        #ai #llm

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                        #61

                        @nixCraft

                        If that motherfucker touches me anywhere with his Nazitech, I will break everything on him I can reach.

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                        • drmorrisj@mastodon.socialD drmorrisj@mastodon.social

                          @tiredbun @nixCraft The difference between us is simple: I build the models, so I define them by what they do. You dislike the tech, so you define it by how it feels.

                          ​Admitting you are "technically wrong" while claiming it "doesn't matter" is just a long-winded way of saying you are arguing from emotion. Next time you see a "ghost" in the machine, remember the math you could not be arsed to learn.

                          ​Good luck with the content warnings

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                          #62
                          @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                          My point may have also been hard to follow so:

                          - My first reply - I question if there even is a fallacy because your definition still fits. Maybe a stretch, which is I now agree after thinking.
                          - Other replies, after I saw you say that original point is a fallacy - I say that even if term is incorrect or confusing with "investments" mentioned beside it, the point still stands that "AI" is overvalued and actively harmful.

                          About me "disliking tech" - I like tech in general, I spend a lot of my time, productive or hobby, on IT admin and programmer things. I even liked so called AI (and still like many parts of machine learning that actually bemefit society, be that computer vision or ML-based OCR), until I saw how much it negatively impacted me and those around me. You sound quite condencing trying to say things I say doesn't matter because I am "emotional" while you actually work on whatever sort of machine learning or statistical models that you equate with what companies call AI nowadays.

                          About CWs - screw you for removing them and then mocking me about it, actually, very petty and unnecessary. I have them because this a divisive topic that my followers may not want to read about when they are fed up about it.
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                          • tiredbun@akko.wtfT tiredbun@akko.wtf
                            @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                            My point may have also been hard to follow so:

                            - My first reply - I question if there even is a fallacy because your definition still fits. Maybe a stretch, which is I now agree after thinking.
                            - Other replies, after I saw you say that original point is a fallacy - I say that even if term is incorrect or confusing with "investments" mentioned beside it, the point still stands that "AI" is overvalued and actively harmful.

                            About me "disliking tech" - I like tech in general, I spend a lot of my time, productive or hobby, on IT admin and programmer things. I even liked so called AI (and still like many parts of machine learning that actually bemefit society, be that computer vision or ML-based OCR), until I saw how much it negatively impacted me and those around me. You sound quite condencing trying to say things I say doesn't matter because I am "emotional" while you actually work on whatever sort of machine learning or statistical models that you equate with what companies call AI nowadays.

                            About CWs - screw you for removing them and then mocking me about it, actually, very petty and unnecessary. I have them because this a divisive topic that my followers may not want to read about when they are fed up about it.
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                            #63

                            @tiredbun @nixCraft
                            > this entire thread

                            > "I spend a lot of my time, productive or hobby, on IT admin and programmer things"

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                              It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                              For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                              #ai #llm

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                              #64

                              @nixCraft
                              One of the goals of a college education is to instill critical thinking. (Bravo, students!)

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                              • drmorrisj@mastodon.socialD drmorrisj@mastodon.social

                                @tiredbun @nixCraft
                                > this entire thread

                                > "I spend a lot of my time, productive or hobby, on IT admin and programmer things"

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                                #65
                                @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                                How could you tell my second hobby was arguing with idiots on the internets?

                                Though you seem to have free time for that too. I don't get what is so funny to you.
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                                • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                                  @nixCraft Sadly I saved the vid without bookmarking the post (doh!) so can't give any detail about when or where this was filmed, or who the speaker is, but this one is also good.

                                  The look of total surprise from someone entirely out-of-touch with the views of those outside her tech bubble, is satisfying.

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                                  #66

                                  @ApostateEnglishman
                                  IIRC it was commencement at UCF
                                  @nixCraft

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                                  • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

                                    @nixCraft And also, ethical and moral issues aside, AI sucks for academic purposes.

                                    It doesn't understand, it can't come up with novel ideas, and its always just guessing. Even if its useful for categorizing/screening stuff, real science requires a bunch of extra work to justify your methodology. Every study using AI has to assess the accuracy of the AI for that purpose, and if the AI turns out to have a weird blind spot you missed it invalidates your research.

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                                    @unlofl @nixCraft
                                    >and its always just guessing.
                                    Probability machine.
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                                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                      Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                                      It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                                      For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                                      #ai #llm

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                                      #68

                                      @nixCraft find a way to say NO

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                                        It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                                        For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                                        #ai #llm

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                                        #69

                                        @nixCraft its because the future of AI in reality has nothing to do with us being able to just manage emails and write content faster. it’s war. it’s policing and control. martial law. anyone who doesn’t see this is as dumb as they think we all are.

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