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  3. Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    Here is where it really starts to show that this journalist is just lightly paraphrasing a press release. "Links will become an afterthought," will they? What is your evidence for that confident statement about the future?

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    #88

    @emilymbender

    Yup

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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      NO NO NO NO NO! Flashy polished looking webpages that no one has accountability for run absolutely counter to the common good when it comes to a health information ecosystem AND an informed public.

      (Also, "Antigravity"? Yeah, you want us to think this is very cool science fiction and/or magic. Not buying it.)

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      #89

      @emilymbender

      Thank you for this thread and breakdown!

      Antigravity is a fantastic name, though. A concept directly contrary to observable reality which can never provide what it purports to do, but which demands infinite money to research and build a la a Perpetual Motion machine? Perfect, and I look forward to them naming their future confidence tricks in a similar manner.

      Google Phlogiston. Google Luminous Aether. Google Phrenology.

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        Here is where it really starts to show that this journalist is just lightly paraphrasing a press release. "Links will become an afterthought," will they? What is your evidence for that confident statement about the future?

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        #90

        @emilymbender I think jwz has opinions on links becoming "an afterthought"

        https://www.jwz.org/blog/2026/05/links/

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        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

          Spot the magical thinking here. No, the "AI" isn't making sense of anything. It's making papier-mache of the input, and preventing the use from doing the sense-making.

          Also, is that the Pokemon sense of "evolution"?

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          #91

          @emilymbender Traded while holding a
          https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dubious_Disc

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            Here is where it really starts to show that this journalist is just lightly paraphrasing a press release. "Links will become an afterthought," will they? What is your evidence for that confident statement about the future?

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            #92

            @emilymbender What I especially like about "links will become an afterthought" is that the author outed himself as not bothering to click through on his research...

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            • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

              @morqendi @tomtom @romli @hamishb @emilymbender the only time I use Google is when DDG results are useless so I prepend with “g! ” to try Google, and even the noai version doesn’t append “ -ai” so I still get the AI overview and an actual setting would still help.

              I’ll try to remember to try prepending with “g! -ai “, but that’s not an acceptable way for them to interpret “opt out”

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              #93

              @ShadSterling @morqendi @tomtom @romli @hamishb @emilymbender
              For these search cases, I use the DDG bang "sp!"
              This way, it does the research on StartPage, which is some kind of anonymous and no-AI google page.

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              • lcwander@toot.communityL lcwander@toot.community

                @hamishb @emilymbender the best opt-out mode is using another search engine. Google search enshittification has been going on for at least 5 years. At this point it is just masochism to use it.

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                #94

                @lcwander @hamishb @emilymbender I'm genuinly surprised people still use Google for search, tbh.

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                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                  Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

                  https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

                  A short thread
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                  #95

                  @emilymbender "Google Search as you know it is over".

                  Easily shortened with no loss of information to "Google Search is over". It's really time for them to stop pretending Google is a search engine anymore.

                  I do wonder what running genAI on all their queries is already costing them and how that will only grow per user, though I can only guess how they are going to try and recover that cost.

                  Meanwhile I can see a lot of websites opting out of paying the Google advertisers tax and starting to set a google noindex tag.

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                  • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                    @emilymbender "Google Search as you know it is over".

                    Easily shortened with no loss of information to "Google Search is over". It's really time for them to stop pretending Google is a search engine anymore.

                    I do wonder what running genAI on all their queries is already costing them and how that will only grow per user, though I can only guess how they are going to try and recover that cost.

                    Meanwhile I can see a lot of websites opting out of paying the Google advertisers tax and starting to set a google noindex tag.

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                    #96

                    @emilymbender at the same time as this presentation there was also one to presenting their ideas fror their real business, selling advertising.

                    Link to an article covering this in @urlyman 's post.

                    https://social.linux.pizza/deck/@urlyman@mastodon.social/116608212030886177

                    From the article itself:
                    "Google is betting its entire future on a world where people eagerly hand over their emails, their files, their habits, and their trust – to an AI system that will quietly auction off their attention, word by word, to the highest bidder. The ad infrastructure is ready. The question is whether the audience is."

                    https://matthiasott.com/notes/ad-infinitum

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                    • hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #97

                      @thejessiekirk @emilymbender costs money to use so it is and going to stay very niche

                      It also has AI bullshit too so their marketing doesn't even hold

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                      • hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #98

                        @thejessiekirk @emilymbender my point is that not everyone can afford an extra subscription every month, and even for people who can it's hard to convince them that a search engine is worth paying for when there's other alternatives like DuckDuckGo around, which yeah, maybe they're worse, but there free, they require two fewer mental roadblocks

                        I pay for my email provider and every year around the time when I need to pay the fee I get a lot of anxiety around that, not knowing how bad it's going to be for my finances and savings and stuff. And that's only 12€ *per year*.

                        This is 10 times more expensive, and not everyone works in tech and get paid relatively massive sums of money like apparently 75+% of fedi does.

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                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                          How infantilizing --- you thought you were looking to find something that someone else wrote on the web. But woah! Now you've been "dropped into" an "interactive experience". Yeah, Google can just fuck right off with that.

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                          #99

                          @emilymbender Use no Google before its time. (It will NEVER be its time!)

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                          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                            More stenography here. Google starting shoving the "AI Overviews" into query results as an opt-out situation. That is, you have to take action to have them not pop up. I don't doubt they are *shown to* 2.5 billion monthly users, but that doesn't mean they are used by as many or desired by them.

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                            #100

                            @emilymbender
                            Is monthly the same as weekly × 4?

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                            • hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH hazelnot@sunbeam.city

                              @thejessiekirk @emilymbender my point is that not everyone can afford an extra subscription every month, and even for people who can it's hard to convince them that a search engine is worth paying for when there's other alternatives like DuckDuckGo around, which yeah, maybe they're worse, but there free, they require two fewer mental roadblocks

                              I pay for my email provider and every year around the time when I need to pay the fee I get a lot of anxiety around that, not knowing how bad it's going to be for my finances and savings and stuff. And that's only 12€ *per year*.

                              This is 10 times more expensive, and not everyone works in tech and get paid relatively massive sums of money like apparently 75+% of fedi does.

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                              #101

                              @hazelnot Okay. @emilymbender

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