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  • natanox@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #23

    @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Fair enough, though the question is still why anyone would litter their expensive hard drives with this garbage instead of high quality games - preferably those you own (fuck "licenses", you OWN what you bought).

    I'd rather have a copy of every single git commit version of Beyond All Reason on disk (like, physically, no version management inbetween) than a single of those Slop "games".

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    • lariscusobscurus@wien.rocksL lariscusobscurus@wien.rocks

      @davidgerard SteamDB has a full list of games taking part in this "Festival"

      https://steamdb.info/sales/event/669500857710019396/

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      #24

      @LariscusObscurus @davidgerard
      Some real gems in there
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/4596000/CODEX_vs_SCIENCE_Not_Talos_Principles/
      " CODEX vs SCIENCE (Not Talos Principles) is a [...] game designed to address the deep-rooted cultural drivers behind severe human conflicts: the friction between dogmatic religious extremism and anti-dogmatic scientific skepticism. Set against the backdrop of current geopolitical crises, such as the ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia, the game serves as a cultural intervention. "

      What. The. Actual. Fuck.

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

        https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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        #25

        @davidgerard 13 members. Whoo. Gangbusters.

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

          https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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          #26

          @davidgerard "Learn how AI being used to games faster than ever" - they can't even get the grammar right. Isn't that supposed to be something GenAI is actually pretty good at?

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          • spawnie@mastodon.socialS spawnie@mastodon.social

            @LariscusObscurus @davidgerard
            Some real gems in there
            https://store.steampowered.com/app/4596000/CODEX_vs_SCIENCE_Not_Talos_Principles/
            " CODEX vs SCIENCE (Not Talos Principles) is a [...] game designed to address the deep-rooted cultural drivers behind severe human conflicts: the friction between dogmatic religious extremism and anti-dogmatic scientific skepticism. Set against the backdrop of current geopolitical crises, such as the ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia, the game serves as a cultural intervention. "

            What. The. Actual. Fuck.

            lariscusobscurus@wien.rocksL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #27

            @spawnie @davidgerard Quality stuff. There is also no AI disclosure on the store page, unless I somehow missed it.

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            • spawnie@mastodon.socialS spawnie@mastodon.social

              @LariscusObscurus @davidgerard
              Some real gems in there
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/4596000/CODEX_vs_SCIENCE_Not_Talos_Principles/
              " CODEX vs SCIENCE (Not Talos Principles) is a [...] game designed to address the deep-rooted cultural drivers behind severe human conflicts: the friction between dogmatic religious extremism and anti-dogmatic scientific skepticism. Set against the backdrop of current geopolitical crises, such as the ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia, the game serves as a cultural intervention. "

              What. The. Actual. Fuck.

              spawnie@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #28

              @LariscusObscurus @davidgerard
              It has a singular negative review. This guy didn't even bother to do any marketing - anyone who cares about reaching people via steam knows that you get friend, family, early enthusiasts to post a couple reviews as the game launches, because that's how the algorithm figures out you're a real project.

              For the record putting a game up on steam costs 100 euros.

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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                #29

                @davidgerard Blacklisting a dev should be a feature...

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                  https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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                  #30

                  @davidgerard wtf these look like game titles and thumbs you'd expect to see in a meme specifically mocking asset-theft garbage just out here actually doing it anyway

                  Edit: thinking more, like especially things like "pick me, pick me". I have no idea if the game is meant to parody anime waifu CYOA graphic novel games but it showing up in a meme absolutely would be

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                    https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

                    chx@chx.contactC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #31

                    @davidgerard meanwhile Mark Roberts from Grinding Gear Games: "But I’m just like, from my understanding, and it mostly comes from us trying to recruit people, my understanding is we’re already working multitudes faster than every other company under the sun. Almost. So why should we go and adopt technologies that would slow you down?"

                    https://outputlag.com/feature/diving-deep-into-path-of-exile-curse-of-the-allflame-with-grinding-gear-games/

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                      https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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                      #32

                      @davidgerard But why is Bad Rats from 2009 in the festival? xD
                      https://store.steampowered.com/app/34900/Bad_Rats_the_Rats_Revenge/

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                        https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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                        #33

                        @davidgerard how apt. the page appears to be broken.

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                        • chx@chx.contactC chx@chx.contact

                          @davidgerard meanwhile Mark Roberts from Grinding Gear Games: "But I’m just like, from my understanding, and it mostly comes from us trying to recruit people, my understanding is we’re already working multitudes faster than every other company under the sun. Almost. So why should we go and adopt technologies that would slow you down?"

                          https://outputlag.com/feature/diving-deep-into-path-of-exile-curse-of-the-allflame-with-grinding-gear-games/

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                          #34

                          @chx @davidgerard

                          Love it.

                          "We're actually good at our jobs" in short.

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                            https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

                            the_gayest_goat_on_elekk@elekk.xyzT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #35

                            @davidgerard didn't they already do this some years ago or am I having deja vu?

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                              https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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                              #36

                              @davidgerard Others do what Nintendon't 😁

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                                https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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                                #37

                                @davidgerard Oh good, the "trigger your basal 'danger' reactions" pack.

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                                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                  @davidgerard real rich for them to do this on Steam of all places, owned by the only big corporation in gaming remotely smart enough to realize that gamers fucking hate AI

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                                  #38

                                  @zzt @davidgerard If they really did they'd probably do more to prevent it popping up.

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                                  • rycochet@furs.socialR rycochet@furs.social

                                    @navi @davidgerard The same reason one of the games rips off the RunDMC logo, when your mindset is 'I like money and hate effort!' and your 'creative partner' relies entirely on vomiting a homogenate of things that already exist, you're not getting anything new.

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                                    #39

                                    @Rycochet @navi @davidgerard They wish to bask in the faint glow reflected off true creativity and cool in the hopes it'll confer cool onto them.

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                                    • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                                      @davidgerard the word "festival" makes it appear much more like a valve-sanctioned event, like the themed sales weeks they commonly run on the platform. i wonder if this will lead to any steam policy changes.
                                      steam's user culture hates AI and can be super toxic in that classic gamergatey way, and for once (compared to all the times they're freaking out about eg a woman or LGBTQ character or dev) they might act in alignment with the rest of us.

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                                      #40

                                      @jplebreton @davidgerard Most fests on Steam know when to quit gracefully, this one's just dicking around for a whole month.

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                                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                        @davidgerard real rich for them to do this on Steam of all places, owned by the only big corporation in gaming remotely smart enough to realize that gamers fucking hate AI

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                                        #41

                                        @zzt @davidgerard I mean, they *could* ban the slop.
                                        They just require people disclose it on a honour system.
                                        I don't think they're particularly opposed, either.
                                        Just the classic "don't make *us* liable" stuff Steam seems to do for every issue.

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                                        • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

                                          @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Fair enough, though the question is still why anyone would litter their expensive hard drives with this garbage instead of high quality games - preferably those you own (fuck "licenses", you OWN what you bought).

                                          I'd rather have a copy of every single git commit version of Beyond All Reason on disk (like, physically, no version management inbetween) than a single of those Slop "games".

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                                          #42

                                          @Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Beyond All Reason explicitly allows AI code, so probably not a best example of nonslop.

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