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  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

    #MachineSociety

    hatter@metasocial.comH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @MikeElgan Can we get NVidia and Micron in there for a bit of balance please ?

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    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

      #MachineSociety

      xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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      #32

      @MikeElgan

      Imagine all that money being spent on healthcare, education, housing, infrastructure, sustainable energy and poverty?

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      • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

        @MikeElgan So Nvidia's making a killing...?!

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        #33

        @dancingtreefrog @MikeElgan
        Nvidia is selling the rest of the companies graphics cards to do AI

        its making a killing off people wasting money

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        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

          #MachineSociety

          finestructure@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #34

          @MikeElgan I was wondering how on earth they got to >600B revenue in total until I scrolled down far enough to see NVIDIA 🤪

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          • hatter@metasocial.comH hatter@metasocial.com

            @MikeElgan Can we get NVidia and Micron in there for a bit of balance please ?

            wortex17@mastodon.gamedev.placeW This user is from outside of this forum
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            #35

            @hatter @MikeElgan nvidia is there on the page, just not on the screenshot

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            • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

              #MachineSociety

              reiddragon@fedi.catto.gardenR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36
              @MikeElgan it's so funny how the one company making money is the one selling shovels
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              • sebastian@norrebro.spaceS sebastian@norrebro.space

                @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

                That's one aspect - #AI as a fossil fuel support industry.
                Secondly, killing off the free information web, journalism, art, creativity for good - that's worth the initial losses.

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                #37

                @sebastian @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
                The funny thing is that they utterly depend on those industries for content to train their lying machines, so its a bit hard to see a future for those machines

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                • wortex17@mastodon.gamedev.placeW wortex17@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @hatter @MikeElgan nvidia is there on the page, just not on the screenshot

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                  #38

                  @Wortex17 Ah so it is - nice contrast.

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                  • julesbl@mastodon.me.ukJ julesbl@mastodon.me.uk

                    @sebastian @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
                    The funny thing is that they utterly depend on those industries for content to train their lying machines, so its a bit hard to see a future for those machines

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                    #39

                    @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
                    Yes, that might become interesting ... Snake choking on its own tail ... Or rather its own excrements.
                    Perhaps new models of monetization? Content sweatshops (well, we kinda have those already)?
                    The degradation already shows ... The web drowning in its own slop.

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                    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                      #MachineSociety

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                      #40

                      @MikeElgan

                      Omg bookmarked immediately.

                      I'm under the impression that Midjourney is profitable? (at least for now, lawsuits pending)

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                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                        #MachineSociety

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                        #41

                        @MikeElgan pure insanity

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                        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                          #MachineSociety

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                          #42

                          @mpjgregoire @ChrisMayLA6 @peterbrown

                          The link has a nice near real-time graph of the spending.
                          Only Nvidia has made any money.
                          Oracle hasn't lost anywhere near enough to suit me yet.


                          @MikeElgan

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                          • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                            Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                            #MachineSociety

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                            #43

                            now you can keep track of how many billions in tax payers’ money big statistics are planning to get bailed out

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                            • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                              Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                              #MachineSociety

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                              #44

                              @MikeElgan
                              "We'll make it up in volume!"
                              @jwz

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                              • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                #MachineSociety

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                                #45

                                @MikeElgan

                                seeing amazon at the very top is both surprising and funny considering they don't even have a public ai product that i know of

                                I guess the companies losing the most are the ones actually building the datacenters, with the expectation that eventually usage will be so high that openai/anthropic/whoever will eventually be able to pay them back in rent?

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                                • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                  Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                  #MachineSociety

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                                  #46

                                  @MikeElgan It would be interesting to see IBM, SAP and Salesforce also in this dashboard.

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                                  • sebastian@norrebro.spaceS sebastian@norrebro.space

                                    @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan
                                    Yes, that might become interesting ... Snake choking on its own tail ... Or rather its own excrements.
                                    Perhaps new models of monetization? Content sweatshops (well, we kinda have those already)?
                                    The degradation already shows ... The web drowning in its own slop.

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                                    #47

                                    @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan Can't personal websites help with that?

                                    Genuinely asking, not trying to be a smartass. I know the outlook isn't good, just thought that people should do their part individually as well.

                                    I know creating and maintaining content isn't easy, nor cheap. But perhaps what the internet lacks is more people making simpler websites with real content. An interconnected yet decentralized/independent web of real content, like we had in the past.

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                                    • kennedyrichard@fosstodon.orgK kennedyrichard@fosstodon.org

                                      @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan Can't personal websites help with that?

                                      Genuinely asking, not trying to be a smartass. I know the outlook isn't good, just thought that people should do their part individually as well.

                                      I know creating and maintaining content isn't easy, nor cheap. But perhaps what the internet lacks is more people making simpler websites with real content. An interconnected yet decentralized/independent web of real content, like we had in the past.

                                      kennedyrichard@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #48

                                      @sebastian @julesbl @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan I myself have a couple domains for a couple of years and only recently started writing small articles/essays. It is not much but it is nonetheless a fresh cup of water in a vast desert of disinformation and slop.

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                                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                        #MachineSociety

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                                        #49

                                        @MikeElgan that can't be right, OpenAI look like they're not entirely setting money on fire. I guess they have some very creative accounting tricks to make it look like they're only half going broke.

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                                        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                          #MachineSociety

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                                          #50

                                          @MikeElgan nice

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