This is really cool.
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This is really cool.
Switzerland bolted 5,000 solar panels onto a dam wall 8,000 feet up in the freezing Alps where everyone said solar made no sense, and the plant now makes three times more winter power than any farm down in the valleys https://www.ecoportal.net/en/switzerland-5000-alpine-solar-muttsee-dam-winter-power/28487/
@ameel
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@ameel Cold temperatures make photovoltaics more efficient, too.
maga people be like: when its colder there must be less solar, otherwise it would be warm. thats why solar on a mountain is stupid
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@samerion @pewnack @ameel
the placement of this single maintenance gangway makes absolutely no sense.
how many different module sizes in just one row? YES!
And the wiring between the rows is (at minimum) not efficient. (or just: non working)
In plus there is no reason why anybody would want to place "islands" like this on the wall, aka leaving spots on top empty.
and off course, the AI image checker say "99%" certainty that's GenAI. -
@ameel This article smells AI generated. The formatting is very strange, important details are buried, the photo is not credited, and the Muttsee dam doesn't look anything like the dam in the photo.
Actual article & photo: https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/switzerlands-solar-dam-sun-snow-perfect-mix-green-energy-drive-2023-02-06/
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This is really cool.
Switzerland bolted 5,000 solar panels onto a dam wall 8,000 feet up in the freezing Alps where everyone said solar made no sense, and the plant now makes three times more winter power than any farm down in the valleys https://www.ecoportal.net/en/switzerland-5000-alpine-solar-muttsee-dam-winter-power/28487/
@ameel That article left me with a burning desire to know why people all said it made no sense, and whether there's any actually any truth to that. Sounds to me like it was just difficult to build but otherwise made perfect fucking sense.
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@ameel why wouldn’t putting solar panels in the sun make sense?
@ShadSterling @ameel They'll melt.
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@groberschnitzer @samerion @ameel This is the Muttseedam from the ground. Can't comment on the numbers.
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@ameel This article smells AI generated. The formatting is very strange, important details are buried, the photo is not credited, and the Muttsee dam doesn't look anything like the dam in the photo.
Actual article & photo: https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/switzerlands-solar-dam-sun-snow-perfect-mix-green-energy-drive-2023-02-06/
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@ameel That article left me with a burning desire to know why people all said it made no sense, and whether there's any actually any truth to that. Sounds to me like it was just difficult to build but otherwise made perfect fucking sense.
@crazyeddie I think people have a knee-jerk reaction to things that haven't been done before. They'll keep telling you the return on investment isn't there until you actually do it and prove that these difficult-to-install solar panels work MUCH better in winter than the ones installed in the lowlands. Also, according to the Axpo group website, this is very much a proof-of-concept project in which they're testing to see what does or doesn't work. I'm very glad this is working for them!
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This is really cool.
Switzerland bolted 5,000 solar panels onto a dam wall 8,000 feet up in the freezing Alps where everyone said solar made no sense, and the plant now makes three times more winter power than any farm down in the valleys https://www.ecoportal.net/en/switzerland-5000-alpine-solar-muttsee-dam-winter-power/28487/
@ameel amazing
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This is really cool.
Switzerland bolted 5,000 solar panels onto a dam wall 8,000 feet up in the freezing Alps where everyone said solar made no sense, and the plant now makes three times more winter power than any farm down in the valleys https://www.ecoportal.net/en/switzerland-5000-alpine-solar-muttsee-dam-winter-power/28487/
@ameel <extremely DJT> they said it couldn't be done!
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@samerion @pewnack @ameel
the placement of this single maintenance gangway makes absolutely no sense.
how many different module sizes in just one row? YES!
And the wiring between the rows is (at minimum) not efficient. (or just: non working)
In plus there is no reason why anybody would want to place "islands" like this on the wall, aka leaving spots on top empty.
and off course, the AI image checker say "99%" certainty that's GenAI. -
@ameel This article smells AI generated. The formatting is very strange, important details are buried, the photo is not credited, and the Muttsee dam doesn't look anything like the dam in the photo.
Actual article & photo: https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/switzerlands-solar-dam-sun-snow-perfect-mix-green-energy-drive-2023-02-06/
@samerion Agreed. The site that published this article looks like a content farm, and it's likely they use AI to write part or all of their articles. They're mimicking the style of content that was popular in the BuzzFeed days. The photo is either Photoshopped or AI generated. The Muttsee dam doesn't have a building halfway along the dam wall, plus the height and curvature of the wall shown here doesn't match. According to the Axpo website, the actual content of the article is accurate though.
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@ameel
Thank you for forwarding unchecked(?) AI slop!@adorfer For the people claiming it "smells like AI": It is in fact an Official and Verified story.
The photos are credited and cited (Photographer Arnd Wiegmann, *look under the photos in the official Reuters article)
Licensing for those photos is also available (link is below the photos in the official Reuters article)
Cited Official researched sources:
2. Yale University - https://e360.yale.edu/digest/switzerland-lake-muttsee-dam-solar
3. Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muttsee
When a news article is on the world's leading news company website (Reuters), the official Wikipedia site (which prides itself on 'No AI' and is human moderated), and the official Yale University site, you can be assured in triplicate that it's Official and not a fake AI story.
It's real, it exists, yes you can visit it and see it with your own eyes if you want to, and as mentioned above you can even contact the photographer and obtain the high-resolution original photos.
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@roadskater @samerion Happily, it has also been instantly flagged on Wikipedia as an unreliable source
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This is really cool.
Switzerland bolted 5,000 solar panels onto a dam wall 8,000 feet up in the freezing Alps where everyone said solar made no sense, and the plant now makes three times more winter power than any farm down in the valleys https://www.ecoportal.net/en/switzerland-5000-alpine-solar-muttsee-dam-winter-power/28487/
Since the original article I shared looks like it was published on an AI-powered content farm, here's a 2023 Reuters article on this solar plant: https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/switzerlands-solar-dam-sun-snow-perfect-mix-green-energy-drive-2023-02-06/
Or you can go to the source and check out the AlpinSolar website: https://www.axpo.com/ch/en/energy/generation-and-distribution/solar-power/alpinsolar.html
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This is really cool.
Switzerland bolted 5,000 solar panels onto a dam wall 8,000 feet up in the freezing Alps where everyone said solar made no sense, and the plant now makes three times more winter power than any farm down in the valleys https://www.ecoportal.net/en/switzerland-5000-alpine-solar-muttsee-dam-winter-power/28487/
@ameel An "AI" slop site named ecoportal.net? How absurd is that ...
