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  3. Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.

Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.

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  • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

    You know what else doesn't help? Italy 🇮🇹 being beautiful, but every Italian expat in Amsterdam that I've ever met saying they hate it and that they would never recommend anyone to move there 🥲

    On the other hand, Spain 🇪🇸 is awesome but has an insane housing crisis atm. Also unbearably hot in most places.

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    #130

    @Gina How about Slovenia? Heard some good stories about it.

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    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

      A lot of this is contradictory as well.

      I.e. wanting green nature around while having debilitating hay fever. Wanting a tech community around while not wanting to live in a big city. Able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k while close to an international airport 🤦🏼‍♀️

      Basically I want Bern without winter and hay fever, but it also has to be affordable. Sigh.

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      #131

      @Gina the Bern coastline is unbelievable

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      • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

        @Gina Scotland's nice and, the way things are trending, likely to get nicer

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        #132

        @jackeric @Gina Plus one for Scotland ticking most of these boxes, but the weather really isn’t going to be any different from NL 🌧️

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        • revkarol@fosstodon.orgR revkarol@fosstodon.org

          @Gina the Bern coastline is unbelievable

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          #133

          @revkarol lol

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          • giantspacesquid@fosstodon.orgG giantspacesquid@fosstodon.org

            @yngmar @Gina and that’s why it’s probably best to live on a sailboat 😜

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            #134

            @giantspacesquid @yngmar @Gina fits all the requirements, or at least can depending on where you decide to moor next.

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            • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

              @whjhoek @deach Copenhagen is like Amsterdam's baby sister 😂

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              #135

              @Gina @deach
              Alternatively, somewhere in my favourite country Norway 🇳🇴.

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              • koehntopp@infosec.exchangeK koehntopp@infosec.exchange

                @Gina
                Moving southwards should be easy, most of the population is moving north to escape the heat 🫣

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                #136

                @koehntopp and the wildfires.
                @Gina

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                • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                  You know what else doesn't help? Italy 🇮🇹 being beautiful, but every Italian expat in Amsterdam that I've ever met saying they hate it and that they would never recommend anyone to move there 🥲

                  On the other hand, Spain 🇪🇸 is awesome but has an insane housing crisis atm. Also unbearably hot in most places.

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                  #137

                  @Gina surprised Bulgaria's not on your list, it's where Italians retire and has quite the tech scene. Whether you want mountains, plains or beaches there are options

                  Full disclosure, my wife's Bulgarian so more aware of it than most

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                    #138

                    @Gina
                    Though, I basically never started commuting again "after" covid restrictions went away.

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                    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                      You know what else doesn't help? Italy 🇮🇹 being beautiful, but every Italian expat in Amsterdam that I've ever met saying they hate it and that they would never recommend anyone to move there 🥲

                      On the other hand, Spain 🇪🇸 is awesome but has an insane housing crisis atm. Also unbearably hot in most places.

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                      #139

                      @Gina I recommend cities in the north of Barcelona like Masnou o Premia de Mar.

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                      • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                        Okay so, I'm still not 100% sure whether I'm making the right choice. I always thought I'd end up in a nice farm house in France, but because of tax reasons France is not an option. And because of weather reasons the whole of Northern Europe isn't an option 🌧

                        So it basically comes down to Spain 🇪🇸 or Italy. 🇮🇹

                        Edit: I'm staying in Europe to minimise timezone differences. #moveabroad

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                        #140

                        @Gina Italy for food reasons 😄

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                        • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                          You know what else doesn't help? Italy 🇮🇹 being beautiful, but every Italian expat in Amsterdam that I've ever met saying they hate it and that they would never recommend anyone to move there 🥲

                          On the other hand, Spain 🇪🇸 is awesome but has an insane housing crisis atm. Also unbearably hot in most places.

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                          #141

                          @Gina Porto seems like a pretty close match… or maybe Northern Spain, like Logroño?

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                          • mikesax@mas.toM mikesax@mas.to

                            @Gina Porto seems like a pretty close match… or maybe Northern Spain, like Logroño?

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                            #142

                            @Gina While it’s not the EU but almost, Switzerland, near lake Geneva may be a good option. You can hop on the train and fly from GVA very easily. Not too hot and sunnier than NL.

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                            • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                              You know what else doesn't help? Italy 🇮🇹 being beautiful, but every Italian expat in Amsterdam that I've ever met saying they hate it and that they would never recommend anyone to move there 🥲

                              On the other hand, Spain 🇪🇸 is awesome but has an insane housing crisis atm. Also unbearably hot in most places.

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                              #143

                              France still seems nice as well.

                              https://www.patrice-besse.co.uk/search-ads-in-france/

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                              • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:

                                - sunny and coastal
                                - green nature
                                - access to outdoor sports
                                - a tech community around
                                - an expat community that is not retirees
                                - generally educated populace around
                                - indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
                                - able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
                                - within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
                                - mountains would be cool

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                                #144

                                @Gina Try Granada.

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                                • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                  France still seems nice as well.

                                  https://www.patrice-besse.co.uk/search-ads-in-france/

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                                  #145

                                  @Gina I'm moving to south of Toulouse. In Toulouse there is no problem being english talking.

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                                  • aurochs@todon.euA aurochs@todon.eu

                                    @Gina Try Granada.

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                                    #146

                                    @Gina Alicante is also an option, but I don't want to seem chauvinistic. :-).

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                                    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                      France still seems nice as well.

                                      https://www.patrice-besse.co.uk/search-ads-in-france/

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                                      #147

                                      @Gina Butterfly museum!! https://www.patrice-besse.co.uk/ads/residences-and-character-houses-france-for-sale-in-france-In-the-Millevaches-Regional-Nature-Park--pb335326

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                                      • wronglang@bayes.clubW wronglang@bayes.club

                                        @Gina @Tarnport @Nono it's permanent, sorry

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                                        #148

                                        @wronglang @Gina @Tarnport @Nono

                                        I do not find I pay less taxes in the US than in France (but I had a postdoc income in France :P).

                                        And yes Krysztof is right the climate is not going to improve ...

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                                        • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                          Okay so, I'm still not 100% sure whether I'm making the right choice. I always thought I'd end up in a nice farm house in France, but because of tax reasons France is not an option. And because of weather reasons the whole of Northern Europe isn't an option 🌧

                                          So it basically comes down to Spain 🇪🇸 or Italy. 🇮🇹

                                          Edit: I'm staying in Europe to minimise timezone differences. #moveabroad

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                                          #149

                                          @Gina I'd go exactly the opposite way because of the climate 😄

                                          If I didn't have family (and the Brexit) holding me back I would move to Ireland, Scotland or Scandinavia because the summers in the Netherlands are total ass these days.

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