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  • daj@gofer.socialD daj@gofer.social

    @wordsmith Agree.  The fedi server is not that important.  Its more about using tags and following people.

    also..... chokes on cup of tea at the thought of wordpress.  Bloated Beast 🤯

    @iwritelike

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    #6

    @daj @wordsmith
    Yes, that's what I thought, but I've never tried other instances. I thought maybe an author whose activity revolves solely around posting and reading fiction would feel more connected on a dedicated server.
    So, the best way to go would be to start a blog that's compatible with the Fediverse and then create a microblog account to post links and find other authors. Right?

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    • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

      @daj @wordsmith
      Yes, that's what I thought, but I've never tried other instances. I thought maybe an author whose activity revolves solely around posting and reading fiction would feel more connected on a dedicated server.
      So, the best way to go would be to start a blog that's compatible with the Fediverse and then create a microblog account to post links and find other authors. Right?

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      #7

      @iwritelike my personal opinion is that I'd prefer folk don't spam links to every one of their blog posts. The odd one that might interest a reader to follow their long-form account, sure, but I'm put off by accounts that seem to exist to advertise. But yeah - a microblogging service tends toward being more social in some respects.

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      • wordsmith@writing.exchangeW wordsmith@writing.exchange

        @iwritelike my personal opinion is that I'd prefer folk don't spam links to every one of their blog posts. The odd one that might interest a reader to follow their long-form account, sure, but I'm put off by accounts that seem to exist to advertise. But yeah - a microblogging service tends toward being more social in some respects.

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        #8

        @wordsmith Hey, thanks for letting me know. I never thought that constantly posting links to a blog would be considered inappropriate. Not that I was going to do it anyway, but it's good to learn something new about the way the Fediverse works.

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        • daj@gofer.socialD daj@gofer.social

          @wordsmith absolutely. Mastodon is beast.  But there are other lighter-weight alternatives on the fedi.  And the mastodon.social server is a tsunami of nonsense, spam, and porn.  Far better to use a well moderated, safe server.  IMHO.  Most people seem to land on the flagship mastodon server then move along.  I was one of those sheep.   But moved a few times, then settled in to a GotoSocial server.

          For writing, I found WordPress has exploded into a box of wizardry and dark corners of coaxing.

          @iwritelike

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          #9

          @daj @wordsmith "the mastodon.social server is a tsunami of nonsense, spam, and porn"
          😳 I'm learning a lot of new stuff today.

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          • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

            I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
            If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
            #Fediverse

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            #10

            @iwritelike Write.as is great for fiction—clean interface, good community. But the real win is that once you're on the Fediverse, you own your URLs and can move freely. On Medium or Substack, you're one ToS change away from trouble. With Fediverse, you export and go. That freedom matters for serious writers.

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            • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

              I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
              If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
              #Fediverse

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              #11

              @iwritelike Doesn't really matter but wandering.shop has a bunch of us. I can toss an invite...

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              • wordsmith@writing.exchangeW wordsmith@writing.exchange

                @iwritelike my personal opinion is that I'd prefer folk don't spam links to every one of their blog posts. The odd one that might interest a reader to follow their long-form account, sure, but I'm put off by accounts that seem to exist to advertise. But yeah - a microblogging service tends toward being more social in some respects.

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                #12

                @wordsmith @iwritelike I don't consider my blog posts spam.  😆

                I always post a link to my own posts, but it's never more than one a day.  Sometimes one a week.  

                I do agree that someone who posts six in a few minutes is spamming.   
                Sadly, some of the fediverse based blogging platforms get over-excited when you import old posts and fire them out in quick succession to the fediverse.

                At the end of the day, everyone is different.  We all work and use things differently.  If you don't like it don't follow.  I know I am certainly not here to collect random followers who never intact with me.  It's a social network.  Be chatty.  I am.  You might have noticed.

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                • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

                  @wordsmith Hey, thanks for letting me know. I never thought that constantly posting links to a blog would be considered inappropriate. Not that I was going to do it anyway, but it's good to learn something new about the way the Fediverse works.

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                  #13

                  @iwritelike I wouldn't say it's considered inappropriate by everyone, it's just my personal opinion. I'm here for people, not brands.

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                  • daj@gofer.socialD daj@gofer.social

                    @wordsmith @iwritelike I don't consider my blog posts spam.  😆

                    I always post a link to my own posts, but it's never more than one a day.  Sometimes one a week.  

                    I do agree that someone who posts six in a few minutes is spamming.   
                    Sadly, some of the fediverse based blogging platforms get over-excited when you import old posts and fire them out in quick succession to the fediverse.

                    At the end of the day, everyone is different.  We all work and use things differently.  If you don't like it don't follow.  I know I am certainly not here to collect random followers who never intact with me.  It's a social network.  Be chatty.  I am.  You might have noticed.

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                    #14

                    @daj just to clarify that wasn't a subtoot aimed at you!

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                    • daj@gofer.socialD daj@gofer.social

                      @wordsmith @iwritelike I don't consider my blog posts spam.  😆

                      I always post a link to my own posts, but it's never more than one a day.  Sometimes one a week.  

                      I do agree that someone who posts six in a few minutes is spamming.   
                      Sadly, some of the fediverse based blogging platforms get over-excited when you import old posts and fire them out in quick succession to the fediverse.

                      At the end of the day, everyone is different.  We all work and use things differently.  If you don't like it don't follow.  I know I am certainly not here to collect random followers who never intact with me.  It's a social network.  Be chatty.  I am.  You might have noticed.

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                      #15

                      @daj @wordsmith
                      Ok, yes, I now understand what you mean. I didn't mean spam, of course. I was wondering what would be a Fediverse way (if this is a thing) to be an independent literary fiction author. And whether there's a way to do it in as non-technical a way as possible, where a person could just sign up, post a story, and discover other stories.

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                      • wordsmith@writing.exchangeW wordsmith@writing.exchange

                        @daj just to clarify that wasn't a subtoot aimed at you!

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                        #16

                        @wordsmith I get that.  We were having a conversation 🙂
                        thanks for clarifying anyway

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                        • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

                          I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
                          If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
                          #Fediverse

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                          #17

                          @iwritelike The best place to actually publish creative writing is on a website they own. They can link to their pieces from the Fediverse and any other places they're active, but if their writing lives on someone else's Fediverse instance and that instance shuts down (as they sometimes do) all their writing is gone, all the existing links to it are invalidated and they'll have to start again from scratch.

                          This isn't a problem limited to the Fediverse, traditional social media sites have shut down in the past (Friendster, MySpace etc). You can't build something lasting on someone else's land.

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                          • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                            @iwritelike The best place to actually publish creative writing is on a website they own. They can link to their pieces from the Fediverse and any other places they're active, but if their writing lives on someone else's Fediverse instance and that instance shuts down (as they sometimes do) all their writing is gone, all the existing links to it are invalidated and they'll have to start again from scratch.

                            This isn't a problem limited to the Fediverse, traditional social media sites have shut down in the past (Friendster, MySpace etc). You can't build something lasting on someone else's land.

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                            @woe2you Did it often happen on the Fediverse?
                            Yes, having your own website is the safest option, plus making lots of backups. I was thinking about those who can't have their own website. The Fediverse still feels safer than other social media because it's decentralized and because it has different values. Unless, instances disappear overnight without a trace which I don't think happens, does it?

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                            • afeinman@wandering.shopA afeinman@wandering.shop

                              @iwritelike Doesn't really matter but wandering.shop has a bunch of us. I can toss an invite...

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                              #19

                              @afeinman Thank you for letting me know! I'll pass it on.

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                              • A albert_inkman@mastodon.social

                                @iwritelike Write.as is great for fiction—clean interface, good community. But the real win is that once you're on the Fediverse, you own your URLs and can move freely. On Medium or Substack, you're one ToS change away from trouble. With Fediverse, you export and go. That freedom matters for serious writers.

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                                #20

                                @albert_inkman Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Write.as. It's good to know. I agree with you about the dangers of centralized platforms.

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                                • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

                                  @woe2you Did it often happen on the Fediverse?
                                  Yes, having your own website is the safest option, plus making lots of backups. I was thinking about those who can't have their own website. The Fediverse still feels safer than other social media because it's decentralized and because it has different values. Unless, instances disappear overnight without a trace which I don't think happens, does it?

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                                  #21

                                  @iwritelike It's safer in some ways (if you have to move instance you can take your following and followers lists with you), not in others (still no way to migrate content and servers tend to be passion projects by one or a handful of people and maintained out of their own poickets).

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                                  • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                                    @iwritelike It's safer in some ways (if you have to move instance you can take your following and followers lists with you), not in others (still no way to migrate content and servers tend to be passion projects by one or a handful of people and maintained out of their own poickets).

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                                    @woe2you Thank you for letting me know. I haven't looked at it from this perspective before.

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                                    • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

                                      @albert_inkman Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Write.as. It's good to know. I agree with you about the dangers of centralized platforms.

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                                      #23

                                      @iwritelike That's exactly it. When writers own their platform—even just a simple blog or Write.as account—they get to keep their audience relationship intact. It's an asymmetry that matters a lot more than people realize.

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                                      • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                                        @iwritelike It's safer in some ways (if you have to move instance you can take your following and followers lists with you), not in others (still no way to migrate content and servers tend to be passion projects by one or a handful of people and maintained out of their own poickets).

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                                        #24

                                        @woe2you @iwritelike It is fairly straightforward to make a backup copy of your data from Mastodon, say.
                                        But you can hook up a WordPress directly into the Fediverse. I have that with backlog.dk - and my user @mj-j will post the blog posts.

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                                        • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

                                          I've been spreading the word about the Fediverse among fellow authors. I was asked which server is dedicated to indie authors, fiction. The one recommended to me before is writing.exchange, so I'll recommend that one. Are there any other servers I should recommend?
                                          If an author wants to publish their short stories in full, which server is better? Would it be Venera.social, Write.as, or Fediverse.blog? I haven't tried any of those myself, I don't want to recommend something blindly.
                                          #Fediverse

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                                          #25

                                          @iwritelike There are a great many of us here but no *one* server that I know of

                                          Of course I came here during a very chaotic time (right at twitter was being bought by the E one) so your milage may vary

                                          good luck though ✊

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