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    feditips@social.growyourown.services
    wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af feditips@social.growyourown.services
    #1

    In case you missed it, Bluesky is apparently caving to an authoritarian government:

    ➡️ https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471

    This is why the Fediverse is so important: each Fedi server is totally independent, servers communicate directly with each other, anyone can set up a server anywhere.

    Bluesky posts all flow through Bluesky's own corporate relay which is impossible to bypass, making censorship easy.

    :Fediverse: No one controls the Fediverse

    🦋 Bluesky is controlled by a US-based for-profit corporation

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    • F feditips@social.growyourown.services
      for 27 dage siden

      In case you missed it, Bluesky is apparently caving to an authoritarian government:

      ➡️ https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471

      This is why the Fediverse is so important: each Fedi server is totally independent, servers communicate directly with each other, anyone can set up a server anywhere.

      Bluesky posts all flow through Bluesky's own corporate relay which is impossible to bypass, making censorship easy.

      :Fediverse: No one controls the Fediverse

      🦋 Bluesky is controlled by a US-based for-profit corporation

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      ksaj@infosec.exchange
      wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @FediTips Wow, can anybody follow the laws of every country all at the same time?

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      • K ksaj@infosec.exchange
        for 27 dage siden

        @FediTips Wow, can anybody follow the laws of every country all at the same time?

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        feditips@social.growyourown.services
        wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @ksaj

        For-profit corporations generally try to because they don't want to lose market share (though they may lobby to change laws of course). That's why online services from large corporations may vary a lot depending on where you are accessing them from.

        Independent servers aren't worried about market share.

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        • F feditips@social.growyourown.services
          for 27 dage siden

          In case you missed it, Bluesky is apparently caving to an authoritarian government:

          ➡️ https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471

          This is why the Fediverse is so important: each Fedi server is totally independent, servers communicate directly with each other, anyone can set up a server anywhere.

          Bluesky posts all flow through Bluesky's own corporate relay which is impossible to bypass, making censorship easy.

          :Fediverse: No one controls the Fediverse

          🦋 Bluesky is controlled by a US-based for-profit corporation

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          bgmckay@mastodon.world
          wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @FediTips I have seen other reports that it is the Turkish gvmt shutting down servers that BlueSky was using. Not BlueSky doing the censoring.
          I do not know which is more correct.

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          • F feditips@social.growyourown.services
            for 27 dage siden

            In case you missed it, Bluesky is apparently caving to an authoritarian government:

            ➡️ https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471

            This is why the Fediverse is so important: each Fedi server is totally independent, servers communicate directly with each other, anyone can set up a server anywhere.

            Bluesky posts all flow through Bluesky's own corporate relay which is impossible to bypass, making censorship easy.

            :Fediverse: No one controls the Fediverse

            🦋 Bluesky is controlled by a US-based for-profit corporation

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            lemgandi@mastodon.social
            wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @FediTips As Cory Doctorow says "A great party in a locked room."

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            • B bgmckay@mastodon.world
              for 27 dage siden

              @FediTips I have seen other reports that it is the Turkish gvmt shutting down servers that BlueSky was using. Not BlueSky doing the censoring.
              I do not know which is more correct.

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              feditips@social.growyourown.services
              wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @BGMcKay

              Bluesky has blocked it in Turkey, people are confirming this with VPNs:

              https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/114348113927295764

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              • L lemgandi@mastodon.social
                for 27 dage siden

                @FediTips As Cory Doctorow says "A great party in a locked room."

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                feditips@social.growyourown.services
                wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @lemgandi

                It won't be a great party for long if it is centralised 😦

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                • F feditips@social.growyourown.services
                  for 27 dage siden

                  In case you missed it, Bluesky is apparently caving to an authoritarian government:

                  ➡️ https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471

                  This is why the Fediverse is so important: each Fedi server is totally independent, servers communicate directly with each other, anyone can set up a server anywhere.

                  Bluesky posts all flow through Bluesky's own corporate relay which is impossible to bypass, making censorship easy.

                  :Fediverse: No one controls the Fediverse

                  🦋 Bluesky is controlled by a US-based for-profit corporation

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                  wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @FediTips
                  A lot of what I've heard about Bluesky is that "it's like Twitter used to be!"

                  I don't think anyone who says that as a positive remembers how bad Twitter was about this kind of thing even before Musk bought it. At the absolute very least, everyone knows how everything turned out.

                  If there's anything we can learn from that, Trump's reelection, and COVID, it's that large groups of people can't seem to make decisions based on anything beyond a year or two ago. I'm not sure how to account for that to make any meaningful change.

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                  • F feditips@social.growyourown.services
                    for 27 dage siden

                    In case you missed it, Bluesky is apparently caving to an authoritarian government:

                    ➡️ https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471

                    This is why the Fediverse is so important: each Fedi server is totally independent, servers communicate directly with each other, anyone can set up a server anywhere.

                    Bluesky posts all flow through Bluesky's own corporate relay which is impossible to bypass, making censorship easy.

                    :Fediverse: No one controls the Fediverse

                    🦋 Bluesky is controlled by a US-based for-profit corporation

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                    toxomat@social.tchncs.de
                    wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @FediTips
                    Not sure how big the audience of "huh, didn't notice until now" is, but yes, blsky is neither free nor decentralized.
                    @briankrebs

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                    • F feditips@social.growyourown.services
                      for 27 dage siden

                      In case you missed it, Bluesky is apparently caving to an authoritarian government:

                      ➡️ https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471

                      This is why the Fediverse is so important: each Fedi server is totally independent, servers communicate directly with each other, anyone can set up a server anywhere.

                      Bluesky posts all flow through Bluesky's own corporate relay which is impossible to bypass, making censorship easy.

                      :Fediverse: No one controls the Fediverse

                      🦋 Bluesky is controlled by a US-based for-profit corporation

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                      wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @FediTips

                      No one controls the Fediverse

                      Not exactly - each instance admin controls their instance, and as such the experience of their users. That’s a critical difference for two reasons

                      1. It means you can join an instance that you jive with, and don’t have to “put up with” things you don’t like.

                      2. It means that in order for the Fediverse to continue to have diverse information and viewpoints, people need to avoid congregating on a few large instances.

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                        @FediTips

                        No one controls the Fediverse

                        Not exactly - each instance admin controls their instance, and as such the experience of their users. That’s a critical difference for two reasons

                        1. It means you can join an instance that you jive with, and don’t have to “put up with” things you don’t like.

                        2. It means that in order for the Fediverse to continue to have diverse information and viewpoints, people need to avoid congregating on a few large instances.

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                        feditips@social.growyourown.services
                        wrote for 25 dage siden sidst redigeret af feditips@social.growyourown.services
                        #11

                        @alatartheblue

                        Yeah, totally agree, to put it exactly: no single person or organisation controls the entire Fediverse. The power is decentralised to thousands of independent instance admins who all control a tiny bit of the network 🙂

                        But the character limit is unforgiving on vanilla Mastodon so I tried to say something briefer 😁

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                        • T toxomat@social.tchncs.de
                          for 27 dage siden

                          @FediTips
                          Not sure how big the audience of "huh, didn't notice until now" is, but yes, blsky is neither free nor decentralized.
                          @briankrebs

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                          feditips@social.growyourown.services
                          wrote for 25 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @toxomat

                          I've seen a lot of people who still think Bluesky is decentralised, because that's how Bluesky hypes itself in interviews and media promotion. The media then perpetuates this for whatever reason.

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                            @FediTips
                            A lot of what I've heard about Bluesky is that "it's like Twitter used to be!"

                            I don't think anyone who says that as a positive remembers how bad Twitter was about this kind of thing even before Musk bought it. At the absolute very least, everyone knows how everything turned out.

                            If there's anything we can learn from that, Trump's reelection, and COVID, it's that large groups of people can't seem to make decisions based on anything beyond a year or two ago. I'm not sure how to account for that to make any meaningful change.

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                            feditips@social.growyourown.services
                            wrote for 25 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @jargoggles

                            Yup.

                            Also, people seem to think corporate structures can be okay if only the people in charge are good people. This is similar to the "benevolent dictator" fallacy, it totally misses that the main problem is with the structure rather than who is in charge.

                            If people could think about the effects of structures more, real change could be possible.

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