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What does "the Fediverse" mean?

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  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

    What does "the Fediverse" mean?

    #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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    #22

    @evan I'd also call it culture of networking, independent, flexible, dynamic, diverse and creative

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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      What does "the Fediverse" mean?

      #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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      #23

      @evan@cosocial.ca the Fediverse, in abstract, means pretty much all of these things, but when people are referring to a concrete "the Fediverse", they first and foremost mean this network characterized by running on ActivityPub on the open, public internet (as opposed to smaller bubbles running over Tor and such), which happens to also uniquely specify a group of people (who use this network), a set of principles about moderation and federation and accessibility, and to a lesser extent, a culture, but the culture is much more subjective and more of a gradient across the network. the group of people are often more precisely referred to as "fedizens" and the principles might be called something like "fediquette". but "the Fediverse" refers to the network as a whole, containing all of these elements.

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      • sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS sodiboo@gaysex.cloud

        @evan@cosocial.ca the Fediverse, in abstract, means pretty much all of these things, but when people are referring to a concrete "the Fediverse", they first and foremost mean this network characterized by running on ActivityPub on the open, public internet (as opposed to smaller bubbles running over Tor and such), which happens to also uniquely specify a group of people (who use this network), a set of principles about moderation and federation and accessibility, and to a lesser extent, a culture, but the culture is much more subjective and more of a gradient across the network. the group of people are often more precisely referred to as "fedizens" and the principles might be called something like "fediquette". but "the Fediverse" refers to the network as a whole, containing all of these elements.

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        #24

        @sodiboo so, what did you choose?

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        • dermoth@jasette.facil.servicesD dermoth@jasette.facil.services

          @evan All of the above?

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          #25

          @dermoth no

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            @sodiboo so, what did you choose?

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            #26

            @evan@cosocial.ca network, of course! but only after acknowledging that those other things can also definitely be described as the Fediverse

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              What does "the Fediverse" mean?

              #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

              lambic@social.linux.pizzaL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #27

              @evan I picked "A group of people" but I think it's more like "A collection of groups of people"

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                #28

                @evan the correct answer is "yes"

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                  #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                  #29

                  @evan To me, "None of the above". The "Fedi" part being Federation which is just a collection of distinct entities which retain their distinctness, and "verse" being shore for Universe which is the set of all entities. This thing is a Federation of computer nodes, out of the set of all computer nodes on the Internet, sharing a common communication protocol and interaction rules and controls.

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    This is single choice for a reason. Yes, it's hard to choose.

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                    #30

                    @evan reposted with alt-poll

                    *runs*

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                      #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                      #31

                      @evan Personally I think "the Fediverse" is actually a network of a group of people following a set of principles to establish a culture.

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                        #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                        #32

                        @evan @Em0nM4stodon Yes.

                        Yet another one of your darn polls where I can't select any of the answers because none of them are mutually exclusive of the others to me.

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                        • sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS sodiboo@gaysex.cloud

                          @evan@cosocial.ca the Fediverse, in abstract, means pretty much all of these things, but when people are referring to a concrete "the Fediverse", they first and foremost mean this network characterized by running on ActivityPub on the open, public internet (as opposed to smaller bubbles running over Tor and such), which happens to also uniquely specify a group of people (who use this network), a set of principles about moderation and federation and accessibility, and to a lesser extent, a culture, but the culture is much more subjective and more of a gradient across the network. the group of people are often more precisely referred to as "fedizens" and the principles might be called something like "fediquette". but "the Fediverse" refers to the network as a whole, containing all of these elements.

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                          #33

                          @sodiboo @evan I don't disagree with you, but I think it's important to point out the the term fediverse predates the existence of activitypub.

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                          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                            What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                            #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                            #34

                            @evan@cosocial.ca I joined the Fediverse and started an instance, because I loved the idea of independence. I really hope it's not a culture or a set of principles, because that would probably heavily limit the amount and types of people I can interact with. Bubbles are comfortable, but comfort zones don't help us grow as people.

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                            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                              This is single choice for a reason. Yes, it's hard to choose.

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                              #35

                              @evan that's weird I feel like the answer was really easy

                              Maybe I'm wrong though

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                              • nieuemma@mastodon.deN nieuemma@mastodon.de

                                @evan that's weird I feel like the answer was really easy

                                Maybe I'm wrong though

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                                #36

                                @nieuemma first thought, best thought

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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                                  #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                                  #37

                                  @evan Group of people made up of several interconnected interoperable networks with a culture of inclusion, decentralization and free access as a core set of principles.

                                  And I love you all for it.

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                                  • forbo@mastodon.socialF forbo@mastodon.social

                                    @evan I said principles, because in my mind the network/protocols were built with those principles/goals in mind. The group of people/culture identify with those principles, so it seems to me like the principles are the thing that exist furthest "upstream".

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                                    #38

                                    @Forbo @evan Yes, this. It’s a specific set of protocols that allow a specific kind of interactivity. Technology shapes behavior.

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                                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                      What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                                      #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                                      #39

                                      @evan@cosocial.ca this is a really hard question. What kind of sociopath are you?

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                                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                        What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                                        #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                                        #40

                                        @evan@cosocial.ca finally voted for “a network”.

                                        Yes, it is all of those things. But when I think about what disqualifies something from the question…

                                        If I can’t, even in theory, interact with it from mtl.rocks, then I’m going to say it’s not Fediverse. Something like Gemini might share the same principles but it’s a different thing.

                                        I also think that there are some interesting groups of people and subcultures on “the Fediverse”. Frankly this includes some people that “the Fediverse” would be better off without. They might be on widely-blocked domains. Regrettably that does still count as “the Fediverse” to me.

                                        So… it’s “a network” that includes mtl.rocks and everything reachable from it (including indirectly).

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                                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                          What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                                          #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                                          #41

                                          @evan@cosocial.ca possible follow-up question:

                                          if an activitypub server doesn’t interact with any other activitypub server which is part of the big connected graph (either by choice or by being universally blocked)… is that part of “the Fediverse”?

                                          my gut says no, but i don’t feel strongly

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