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What does "the Fediverse" mean?

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  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

    What does "the Fediverse" mean?

    #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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    #46

    @evan I think the bottom three can change over time the thread holding it all together is the connection, so a network.

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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      What does "the Fediverse" mean?

      #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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      #47

      @evan Yes.

      The Fediverse is a culture, made up of people, with a shared set of principles, communicating over a network.

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      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

        What does "the Fediverse" mean?

        #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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        #48

        @evan a series of tubes

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        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

          What does "the Fediverse" mean?

          #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

          evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #49

          Thanks to everyone who replied.

          I think this is an important topic, because the different definitions result in different policy decisions.

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            Thanks to everyone who replied.

            I think this is an important topic, because the different definitions result in different policy decisions.

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            #50

            If you think of the Fediverse as a culture, or a group of people, then questions about who can join are really important. Who has access to our time and attention? Who do we want to hang out with, and have among us?

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              If you think of the Fediverse as a culture, or a group of people, then questions about who can join are really important. Who has access to our time and attention? Who do we want to hang out with, and have among us?

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              #51

              If you think of the Fediverse as a set of principles -- decentralization, open standards, open source, anti-capitalism -- then questions about who can participate depends on if they accept and represent most, or all, of those principles.

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                If you think of the Fediverse as a set of principles -- decentralization, open standards, open source, anti-capitalism -- then questions about who can participate depends on if they accept and represent most, or all, of those principles.

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                #52

                If you think of the Fediverse as an open, permissionless network, then a lot of the shibboleths go away. Anyone can join the network -- and anyone else can choose whether or not to communicate with them.

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  If you think of the Fediverse as an open, permissionless network, then a lot of the shibboleths go away. Anyone can join the network -- and anyone else can choose whether or not to communicate with them.

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                  #53

                  I use "Fediverse" for both a network and a culture. I also use "ActivityPub network" or "Open social web" for the network itself. I think it's very important to make the network as open, permissionless, and connected as possible. Everyone on the planet has a right to be on that network.

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    I use "Fediverse" for both a network and a culture. I also use "ActivityPub network" or "Open social web" for the network itself. I think it's very important to make the network as open, permissionless, and connected as possible. Everyone on the planet has a right to be on that network.

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                    #54

                    I understand people's concerns with protecting the culture, and I'm fine with people using the tools at hand to protect it -- like blocklists and defederation. If you think some software or some community is bad for the culture, you should use the tools available to protect it.

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      If you think of the Fediverse as a set of principles -- decentralization, open standards, open source, anti-capitalism -- then questions about who can participate depends on if they accept and represent most, or all, of those principles.

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                      #55

                      @evan Anyone can participate so long as they're not absolute throbbers. The technical standard aspect is transparent to them, as it should be.

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        I understand people's concerns with protecting the culture, and I'm fine with people using the tools at hand to protect it -- like blocklists and defederation. If you think some software or some community is bad for the culture, you should use the tools available to protect it.

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                        #56

                        I don't like the tendency of some people to brigade projects or people they think are a threat to the culture. It's an ugly process. I was disappointed to see some of the replies to the #SiliconBeest post on Reddit, here:

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/comments/1v2mt69/i_built_a_full_fediverse_service_that_runs_100_on/

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          I don't like the tendency of some people to brigade projects or people they think are a threat to the culture. It's an ugly process. I was disappointed to see some of the replies to the #SiliconBeest post on Reddit, here:

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/comments/1v2mt69/i_built_a_full_fediverse_service_that_runs_100_on/

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                          #57

                          My work at #SWF and W3C is about making this network open to everyone, and encouraging implementers. I'm going to continue doing this.

                          Anyway, my answer: network.

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                          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                            What does "the Fediverse" mean?

                            #EvanPoll #poll #Fediverse

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                            #58

                            @evan I chose network and this is mostly how I use it. I think it is the important meaning too. With my friends we sometimes use "fediverse" to refer to a culture, but that is mostly as a joke - e.g. if we see someone on the street that looks like a stereotypical fediverse user. It's a fun game we play trying to get at the hidden patterns of this user base. I want fediverse to continue to facilitate a home for that culture, but ultimately I also want other cultures here - many.

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