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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

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  • eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE eeveecraft@dragonscave.space

    @rysiek If you interpret the word, "Stagnant," like that, sure, but that's not what I mean by stagnant, and I thought that was pretty clear with the arguments and links I provided.

    I mean stagnant in terms of growth, and I am talking about Mastodon specifically, we're not talking about the Fediverse in general. Where did I mention the Fediverse as a whole and not Mastodon?

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    #96

    @Eeveecraft fair enough. Mastodon is often a stand-in for fedi, hence me interpreting it that way.

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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      @dgodon move slow and gradually improve things.

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      #97

      @rysiek @dgodon

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      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

        Today more time has passed since the Mastodon Won't Survive piece got published than there is left until the AI bubble pops.

        Feeling old yet?

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        #98

        @rysiek 🥹🥹 yeah I miss the old days even tho I am around 20s I can feel back pain ehehe 😅😅

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        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

          Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
          https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

          #Fediverse #Mastodon

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          #99

          @rysiek lmao

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          • sexybenfranklin@smores.townS sexybenfranklin@smores.town

            @rysiek what if Mastodon didn't survive and this is all limbo?

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            #100

            @sexybenfranklin
            That would explain A LOT, honestly.
            @rysiek

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            • benjaminnelan@mastodon.socialB benjaminnelan@mastodon.social

              @rysiek *casually reading '8 years ago', not really believing it, looking at the calendar and groaning*

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              #101

              @BenjaminNelan
              1990 was ten years ago, and you can't convince me otherwise.
              @rysiek

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              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                #102

                @rysiek please don't open that article, they'll see an uptick in traffic coming from Mastodon, which won't survive

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                • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                  @quinn I don't think growth for growth's sake is the way to go, and while it does provide *a* signal, it is not *the* signal so to speak.

                  I fully expect Bluesky to start enshittifying, because of course they will with their cryptocurrency bro overlords looking for payout eventually.

                  Meanwhile fedi is doing its thing, getting more resilient, easier to join, dealing with some long-term issues around moderation and so on. And will be there, better prepared than ever, for the next wave.

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                  #103

                  @rysiek @quinn what do you mean by payback eventually?
                  They will want it now if not yesterday!

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                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                    @quinn I don't think growth for growth's sake is the way to go, and while it does provide *a* signal, it is not *the* signal so to speak.

                    I fully expect Bluesky to start enshittifying, because of course they will with their cryptocurrency bro overlords looking for payout eventually.

                    Meanwhile fedi is doing its thing, getting more resilient, easier to join, dealing with some long-term issues around moderation and so on. And will be there, better prepared than ever, for the next wave.

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                    #104

                    @rysiek not many of my non geeky friends are here, and none of the communities I am trying to reach out to 😔

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                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                      Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                      https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                      #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                      #105

                      @rysiek
                      There were three men come out of the West
                      Their fortunes for to try.
                      And these three men made a solemn vow.
                      John Mastodon must die.

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                      • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                        @rysiek not many of my non geeky friends are here, and none of the communities I am trying to reach out to 😔

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                        #106

                        @rysiek there's a lot of good people saying important things on Twitter still, too. People I respect and people I care about. Network effects are crucial.

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                        • nblr@chaos.socialN nblr@chaos.social

                          @rysiek lol. Didn't have to read beyond "I signed up primarily to protect my name."
                          Yeah, uhm. Good to be here. Not missing those people.

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                          #107

                          @nblr
                          I've seen people say that about BS accounts. Just signing up to protect my brand! Like copycat accounts are concerned about accuracy in account impersonations. They'll let some celeb have their real "protected" account of @johnsmith on BS and just use @johrsrn1th to ask people for iTunes gift cards.

                          @rysiek

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                          • chrisp@cyberplace.socialC chrisp@cyberplace.social

                            @rysiek How is the Metaverse going, anyway?

                            Mastodon has outlived the Metaverse, bitcoin usefulness, NFTs...

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                            #108

                            @chrisp
                            Three seriously low hanging plums, those.
                            @rysiek

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                            • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                              @rysiek
                              "This is no BlueSky"

                              Said like it's a bad thing to not be scraping everything for ai, or to be beholden to crypto bros.
                              @revengeday

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                              #109

                              @xinit @rysiek @revengeday his comment is a year old, when bluesky's nefarious pivot was signposted, but less clear.

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                              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                                https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                                #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                                #110

                                @rysiek to me there is fundamental flaws in his arguments and to anyone trying to mock him.

                                On one hand the chief complaint of Mastodon for him and for many is also its biggest feature. By its very nature Mastodon has no reason to ever “die”. It has no stakeholders no profit margins no business to keep a float. If someone just one person is willing to keep a server running In their basement forever with Mastodon on it. Mastodon will live for ever.

                                The gist of argument in my view ? Or what I see is the argument; is that Mastodon will never outgrow Twitter or X. And I agree, it won’t. Mastodon GMBH essentially guaranteed that by killing the ability to find other servers while using their servers.

                                I am done caring if Mastodon grows to billions. If people don’t want to put in a little work and see something amazing. That’s their problem ! Mastodon has plenty of interesting funny people who toot everyday. And that’s more than enough for me

                                The article itself is douchey as I imagine the author of it Is. But I think the argument is won that Mastodon will not achieve mainstream. My argument is that doesn’t matter.

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                                • liquidlamp@hachyderm.ioL liquidlamp@hachyderm.io

                                  @xinit @rysiek @revengeday his comment is a year old, when bluesky's nefarious pivot was signposted, but less clear.

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                                  #111

                                  @liquidlamp
                                  Fair, but we all knew they were going to have to bring VC money in. Even in the early days of Twitter, it was pretty obvious to many that there needed to be a way to generate revenue to pay for infrastructure and salaries. Monetize or die, more or less.
                                  @rysiek @revengeday

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                                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                    Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                                    https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                                    #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                                    #112

                                    @rysiek It'll never catch on. Lol.

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                                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                      Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                                      https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                                      #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                                      #113

                                      @rysiek Insightful views on Mastodon from a man who ... *reads again* ... set up an account solely to stop someone else from signing up using his name ... clearly not realizing there is no central username database for Mastodon.

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                                      • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                                        @rysiek what a treat
                                        "Mastodon cannot live on hype alone." 😂

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                                        #114

                                        @leanderlindahl @rysiek Oh yeah; we’re just drowning in hype here. All those politicians and influencers heaping undeserved praise on the little ol’ elephant.

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                                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                          Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                                          https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                                          #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                                          #115

                                          @rysiek Uh-huh. Great post to see in trending after coming from threads to check if mastodon gained any traction yet (it didn't)

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