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  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

    @snaums the trouble with open source is we conflate these two things

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    #38

    @glyph @snaums I feel like this is what semantic versioning is supposed to provide the risk communication for.

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    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@glyph/115839163441384816

      @rmi My initial comparisons to substance abuse were somewhat tentative and reluctant, back in January. But these have gone from being a few troubling-but-subtle bits of hearsay and implication to a drumbeat of near-daily incidents and I wish I were not feeling so validated in this particular view

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      #39

      @glyph God damn. Didn't consumer LLMs become widespread during the Biden administration? How do we already have so many people addicted to it?

      @rmi

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      • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

        @glyph In general,the smartest people you know are almost certainly only one context-switch away from acting like complete fools.

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        #40

        @miss_rodent this is so true!

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          Sigh. OK. rsync discourse:

          This is not a story about “vibe coding” or “slop” or regressions or even open source sustainability or whatever: it’s a story about mental health.

          The timeline of Tridge’s response in particular can be broke down like so:

          1. AI skeptics say "LLMs create difficult-to-evaluate defects, even if you're careful"
          2. Tridge introduces defects even though he was careful
          3. he gets yelled at
          4. His response is to say "you dinosaurs don't appreciate how *careful* I was!"

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          #41

          @glyph Just like „there are no atheists in the foxholes” adage doesn’t tell us much about atheists, successes of solo developers with AI don’t tell us much about AI.

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          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

            Sigh. OK. rsync discourse:

            This is not a story about “vibe coding” or “slop” or regressions or even open source sustainability or whatever: it’s a story about mental health.

            The timeline of Tridge’s response in particular can be broke down like so:

            1. AI skeptics say "LLMs create difficult-to-evaluate defects, even if you're careful"
            2. Tridge introduces defects even though he was careful
            3. he gets yelled at
            4. His response is to say "you dinosaurs don't appreciate how *careful* I was!"

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            #42

            @glyph See also "Brexit"

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@glyph/115839163441384816

              @rmi My initial comparisons to substance abuse were somewhat tentative and reluctant, back in January. But these have gone from being a few troubling-but-subtle bits of hearsay and implication to a drumbeat of near-daily incidents and I wish I were not feeling so validated in this particular view

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              #43

              @glyph @rmi I think it's worse than any drug addicts, because even with legal "soft" drugs like caffeine we don't tell people that they've to:

              • Consume that shit or youcwill get fired.
              • We'll fire people because someone OD'ing on caffeine is better than a well-adjusted being
              • Allow execs to sout hateful garbage (i.e. that people refusing to do it should starve to death).

              Like most junkies at least have the courtesy to keep their stuff away from small children, when the AIslop industry actively tries to target minors!

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              • rmi@cloudisland.nzR rmi@cloudisland.nz

                @glyph I’ve seen this before, and no LLMs were involved. It’s addiction.

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                #44

                @rmi @glyph Microsoft plans to release an AI that is addictive. Ok, a plan leaked about it. It's probably not the only plan like that.

                https://www.404media.co/microsoft-wants-to-make-people-addicted-to-scout-its-new-ai-assistant-internal-documents-reveal/

                This is exactly the mental health status you'd expect e.g. from a smoker. Already diagnosed with COPD, he would still yell at everyone who told him so.

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                • airlied@floss.socialA airlied@floss.social

                  @glyph or it could be the patch that caused the regression was written by him in a hurry to fix a security hole. Then he realised he needed better testing and used AI tooling to try and solve the lack of testing and validation. Reading skills can't be that shit around here, maybe use an AI to read his blog post.

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                  #45

                  @airlied @glyph Why in the world would a sane person use AI to quickly generate code for tests???

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                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                    Sigh. OK. rsync discourse:

                    This is not a story about “vibe coding” or “slop” or regressions or even open source sustainability or whatever: it’s a story about mental health.

                    The timeline of Tridge’s response in particular can be broke down like so:

                    1. AI skeptics say "LLMs create difficult-to-evaluate defects, even if you're careful"
                    2. Tridge introduces defects even though he was careful
                    3. he gets yelled at
                    4. His response is to say "you dinosaurs don't appreciate how *careful* I was!"

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                    #46

                    @glyph I keep reasoning about which logical fallacy is described in this pattern. Dunning-Kruger comes to mind: without knowing the subject being confident to have performed to the best knowledge.

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                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                      Sigh. OK. rsync discourse:

                      This is not a story about “vibe coding” or “slop” or regressions or even open source sustainability or whatever: it’s a story about mental health.

                      The timeline of Tridge’s response in particular can be broke down like so:

                      1. AI skeptics say "LLMs create difficult-to-evaluate defects, even if you're careful"
                      2. Tridge introduces defects even though he was careful
                      3. he gets yelled at
                      4. His response is to say "you dinosaurs don't appreciate how *careful* I was!"

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                      #47

                      @glyph it always surprises me how a non-deterministic model could be taken seriously....

                      if you train it, due to its non-determinism it looses half its memory between hours of chatting with it. thats not a fault, thats *by design*

                      i can understand where hes coming from with "careful".

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