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  3. The recent post criticising Free Software advocates for advocating user-modifiable software and then being annoyed at LLMs annoys me and the reason is best illustrated by this analogy:

The recent post criticising Free Software advocates for advocating user-modifiable software and then being annoyed at LLMs annoys me and the reason is best illustrated by this analogy:

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  • paelnever@masto.esP paelnever@masto.es

    @ratsnakegames @raymaccarthy @david_chisnall

    I'm sorry but a fake analogy is not a valid argument and will never be.

    Most of the people who actually use LLM codegen they DO understand "AGI" is a lie. Maybe is a surprise to you but there are people who understand that all technologies can be used in the right or the wrong way.

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    @ratsnakegames @raymaccarthy @david_chisnall

    Of course you can ragequit a conversation and block me if you want but you don't need to insult and incite other people to block. You can just leave.

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    • neilk@xoxo.zoneN neilk@xoxo.zone

      @david_chisnall As someone who has been an enthusiast and contributor to open source since before it had that name:

      We have never delivered on the idea of user-modifiable software. We have sometimes freed software builders from unnecessary toll booths and restrictions. In other words, we built something that works for us and stopped.

      I think your analogy of literal crazy taxis is good when talking about LLMs for noncoders. But there was no actual product from FL/OSS world that it’s displacing

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      @neilk @david_chisnall LLMs are displacing the open source movement itself.
      By flooding FLOSS projects with slop requests on one side, and copyright-washing their code on the other side.

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      • shanesemler@metalhead.clubS shanesemler@metalhead.club

        @david_chisnall @crazyeddie The tools exist, and people will use them. You all can argue about it and seethe into the ether, but people are going to do it, whether pro devs like it or not.

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        @shanesemler @david_chisnall @crazyeddie Talk about it when their tools can hold their own weight without billions of venture capital dollars poured into them.

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