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"when did Star Trek get woke??"

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  • mrencyclopedia@retro.pizzaM mrencyclopedia@retro.pizza

    @47363 @Lana I suspect it's a typo for "short skirt" but yeah it can be a shirt skirt too

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    @mrencyclopedia @47363 @Lana The official term for them in show canon is "skant"

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    • caseyl@mastodon.nzC caseyl@mastodon.nz

      @Lana @roknrol

      IIRC, they added Chekov as a "heartthrob" in order to appeal to teenage girls

      In the mid-60s, the wild success of theBeatles, the Monkees, and even The Man From Uncle (bc Ilya) etc., were showing that teenage girls were an important and profitable demographic - and those teenage girls liked attractive young guys who had just a touch of an exotic/dangerous air about them.

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      @CaseyL @Lana @roknrol

      May also be why they added a single man to the space family in "Lost In Space." Certainly the girl across the street was hot for him.

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      • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

        "when did Star Trek get woke??"

        In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

        In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

        In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

        Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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        #63

        @Lana i was with you up to the queer coding. care to flesh that out?

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        • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

          @Lana i was with you up to the queer coding. care to flesh that out?

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          @fishidwardrobe

          Dax.

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          • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

            @savanni Sulu. Just...all of Sulu.

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            #65

            @Lana Huh! I totally did not get that!

            (from TOS, anyway. The JJ Abrams version makes it very explicit when we see his husband and daughter.)

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            • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

              "when did Star Trek get woke??"

              In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

              In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

              In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

              Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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              @Lana 👍💯🖖

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              • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                #67

                @Lana Yes! Yes! Yes! Couldn't have written this nearly so well, thanks!

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