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  • j2bryson@mastodon.socialJ j2bryson@mastodon.social

    My seat mate, Anke Domscheit-Berg (former Linke MP) gets me to stop being snarky to listen to Thomas Jarzombek, Parliamentary State Secretary, Federal Ministry for Digital Transformation and Government Modernisation, Germany whom she says isn't as bad as some of the ones who went before, but TBH I didn't catch much new from him either.

    #digitalsovereignty

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    #23

    The panel is The Power of Digital Commons: Building Europe’s Shared Digital Future

    Art de Blaauw, CIO Dutch Central Government, Ministry of the Interior & Kingdom Relations, apparently was just elected the first president of a committee (edict?) on digital commons within the EU. He makes a nice speech but again no news…oh here's some news! Docs, open source govtech document editor built by DE FR & NL. Which I cannot find even searching with @kagihq 300K people are using it? #digitalSovereignty

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      The panel is The Power of Digital Commons: Building Europe’s Shared Digital Future

      Art de Blaauw, CIO Dutch Central Government, Ministry of the Interior & Kingdom Relations, apparently was just elected the first president of a committee (edict?) on digital commons within the EU. He makes a nice speech but again no news…oh here's some news! Docs, open source govtech document editor built by DE FR & NL. Which I cannot find even searching with @kagihq 300K people are using it? #digitalSovereignty

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      #24

      It's a little weird hearing an Austrian talking about since the beginning of humanity technology determined empires. He said EDIC started in Vienna only 8 weeks ago hmm I think this is DC-EDIC https://www.zendis.de/en/newsroom/press/dc-edic-gegruendet which is one of the special cases of EDICs https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/edic
      Alexander Pröll, State Secretary for Digitalisation, Federal Chancellery, Austria

      still failing to find it online...
      #edic #digitalSovereignty

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        It's a little weird hearing an Austrian talking about since the beginning of humanity technology determined empires. He said EDIC started in Vienna only 8 weeks ago hmm I think this is DC-EDIC https://www.zendis.de/en/newsroom/press/dc-edic-gegruendet which is one of the special cases of EDICs https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/edic
        Alexander Pröll, State Secretary for Digitalisation, Federal Chancellery, Austria

        still failing to find it online...
        #edic #digitalSovereignty

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        #25

        I believe it was Adriana Groh, Managing Director, Sovereign Tech Agency

        who just said

        "this [independent, multi provider, open source software?] is the mission of the sovereign tech agency...infrastructure is power "

        Corinne Cath, Digital Policy and Infrastructure Governance Expert @article19

        The attacks on infrastructure are attacks on democracy disguised as glitches. These were timed to interfere with Danish elections.

        #digitalSovereignty

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          I believe it was Adriana Groh, Managing Director, Sovereign Tech Agency

          who just said

          "this [independent, multi provider, open source software?] is the mission of the sovereign tech agency...infrastructure is power "

          Corinne Cath, Digital Policy and Infrastructure Governance Expert @article19

          The attacks on infrastructure are attacks on democracy disguised as glitches. These were timed to interfere with Danish elections.

          #digitalSovereignty

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          #26

          #digitalSovereignty

          In general, Corinne Cath, was awesome (as always) Someone finally calling this warfare out, really talking about why this matters.

          "We cannot be turned off by accident, or as is increasingly likely in 2025, by intent."

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          • j2bryson@mastodon.socialJ j2bryson@mastodon.social

            #digitalSovereignty

            In general, Corinne Cath, was awesome (as always) Someone finally calling this warfare out, really talking about why this matters.

            "We cannot be turned off by accident, or as is increasingly likely in 2025, by intent."

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            #27

            Now Emmanuel Sardet, President of Cigref and Vice-CIO, Crédit Agricole talks good sense, yay! The last thing we as a bank need is agentic AI forced won our throats. The EU's lead on B2B AI is super, super important.

            Fairer Markets in Support of #DigitalSovereignty is the new panel he's on. The panels are getting better and better, I guess because Macron & Merz are closing the day!

            They are talking about how important the #DMA is, but they could equally say #GDPR https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7357055079889207299/

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              Now Emmanuel Sardet, President of Cigref and Vice-CIO, Crédit Agricole talks good sense, yay! The last thing we as a bank need is agentic AI forced won our throats. The EU's lead on B2B AI is super, super important.

              Fairer Markets in Support of #DigitalSovereignty is the new panel he's on. The panels are getting better and better, I guess because Macron & Merz are closing the day!

              They are talking about how important the #DMA is, but they could equally say #GDPR https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7357055079889207299/

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              #28

              This #digitalSovereignty panel is great. Alexandre de Streel, Professor of EU Law, CERRE and Université de Namur was just on an absolute tear about how great a champion Trump is for the #DMA that we can all see why we must enforce this.

              Before him, Filomena Chirico, Head of Unit Digital Markets, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC took a long turn talking good sense about the value of the DMA. She's now talking again about the good stuff about cloud in the DMA.

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                This #digitalSovereignty panel is great. Alexandre de Streel, Professor of EU Law, CERRE and Université de Namur was just on an absolute tear about how great a champion Trump is for the #DMA that we can all see why we must enforce this.

                Before him, Filomena Chirico, Head of Unit Digital Markets, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC took a long turn talking good sense about the value of the DMA. She's now talking again about the good stuff about cloud in the DMA.

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                #29

                de Streel is also back now, pointing out that we had #openSource for DECADES and it wasn't saving us and this is now we now need #digitalGovernance #digitalRegulation. YES!! Contra the nonsense earlier in the day, this legislation is entirely ex post!

                #digitalSovereignty

                Sardet back too: we all talk about #interoperability but no users are changing and everyone just procures from hyperscalers. ABSOLUTELY! https://joanna-bryson.blogspot.com/2021/05/neither-interoperability-nor-data.html no one believed me, I guess I should send that to him 🙂 #DMA

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                  de Streel is also back now, pointing out that we had #openSource for DECADES and it wasn't saving us and this is now we now need #digitalGovernance #digitalRegulation. YES!! Contra the nonsense earlier in the day, this legislation is entirely ex post!

                  #digitalSovereignty

                  Sardet back too: we all talk about #interoperability but no users are changing and everyone just procures from hyperscalers. ABSOLUTELY! https://joanna-bryson.blogspot.com/2021/05/neither-interoperability-nor-data.html no one believed me, I guess I should send that to him 🙂 #DMA

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                  #30

                  chair: are you sure the #DMA is going to solve this? Verena Pausder, Chair, German Startup Association
                  I can't promise but it is a sword and we need to use it. Startups aren't always talking about regulation but we all want this.

                  She also wants regulation to get some of the $300B/year invested into German pensions (incl. by me!) to go into VC, some fraction of a percent is now. Easily fixable without too much risk! #digitalSovereignty

                  Open source is an illusion without infrastructure.

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                    chair: are you sure the #DMA is going to solve this? Verena Pausder, Chair, German Startup Association
                    I can't promise but it is a sword and we need to use it. Startups aren't always talking about regulation but we all want this.

                    She also wants regulation to get some of the $300B/year invested into German pensions (incl. by me!) to go into VC, some fraction of a percent is now. Easily fixable without too much risk! #digitalSovereignty

                    Open source is an illusion without infrastructure.

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                    #31

                    Hey, I'm finally getting engagement here, including links to some of the software mentioned, see thread https://mstdn.social/@testman/115571162035084576 #digitalSovereignty

                    Now the panel is sadly confusing the #DSA and the #DMA. The DSA is supposed to be providing us visibility for recommenders. Oh, de Streel understand this, but there is a competition element given that the agentics are being inserted into widely-used browsers. (I'm switching my browser, email etc. over the local Solstice-associated holidays.)

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                      Hey, I'm finally getting engagement here, including links to some of the software mentioned, see thread https://mstdn.social/@testman/115571162035084576 #digitalSovereignty

                      Now the panel is sadly confusing the #DSA and the #DMA. The DSA is supposed to be providing us visibility for recommenders. Oh, de Streel understand this, but there is a competition element given that the agentics are being inserted into widely-used browsers. (I'm switching my browser, email etc. over the local Solstice-associated holidays.)

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                      #32

                      Another reason to save the best panel for last – Macron and/or Mertz must be late, this panel has been allowed to go on for an hour now. The panel is still great but the chair seems to be running out of questions 😄 #digitalSovereignty

                      They could let the audience ask questions...

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                        Another reason to save the best panel for last – Macron and/or Mertz must be late, this panel has been allowed to go on for an hour now. The panel is still great but the chair seems to be running out of questions 😄 #digitalSovereignty

                        They could let the audience ask questions...

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                        #33

                        TBH I love CloudFlare, nice company and honest last I knew (haven't talked to them for a few years.) But good timing and being well used by the more agile speakers at #digitalSovereignty https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115570551884305954

                        (via @yala )

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                          TBH I love CloudFlare, nice company and honest last I knew (haven't talked to them for a few years.) But good timing and being well used by the more agile speakers at #digitalSovereignty https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115570551884305954

                          (via @yala )

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                          #34

                          The last #digitalsovereignty panel is being asked to wrap up! Filomena Chirico says the #DMA is not the whole puzzle, not magic, but a key part of the solution, what matters is #enforcement. de Streel – yes, ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT !!

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                            The last #digitalsovereignty panel is being asked to wrap up! Filomena Chirico says the #DMA is not the whole puzzle, not magic, but a key part of the solution, what matters is #enforcement. de Streel – yes, ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT !!

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                            #35

                            #digitalsovereignty

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                              #digitalsovereignty

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                              #36

                              Merz: the power of the world is changing fast Europe must not be afraid. But there are bottlenecs like chips. We must do everything that's necessry and feasible. We don't want to splinternet though [not sure I agree]. We want to shape all this with all of you [mostlyb business people but some civil society here. French invited more civil scoety / human rights.] We won't exclude anyone who plays by the rules. [awesome, both sides of that] #digitalsovereignty

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                                Merz: the power of the world is changing fast Europe must not be afraid. But there are bottlenecs like chips. We must do everything that's necessry and feasible. We don't want to splinternet though [not sure I agree]. We want to shape all this with all of you [mostlyb business people but some civil society here. French invited more civil scoety / human rights.] We won't exclude anyone who plays by the rules. [awesome, both sides of that] #digitalsovereignty

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                                #37

                                Merz #digitalsovereignty : our militaries must have reliable digital tools.

                                Germany & France are auto companies [I missed that in German, not sure if he said we use cars a lot or we're autonomus]. He welcomes also his Danish colleague [see above, previously welcomed Macron] We need to reduce bureacracy, we need radical simplifcations of our rules [sparse applause for that here. I'm pro regulation though I may wait 2 years for my DE passport...]

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                                  Merz #digitalsovereignty : our militaries must have reliable digital tools.

                                  Germany & France are auto companies [I missed that in German, not sure if he said we use cars a lot or we're autonomus]. He welcomes also his Danish colleague [see above, previously welcomed Macron] We need to reduce bureacracy, we need radical simplifcations of our rules [sparse applause for that here. I'm pro regulation though I may wait 2 years for my DE passport...]

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                                  #38

                                  Merz #digitalsovereignty : tomorrow we all get to see the great omnibus package we've prposed. it's a litmus test: can we not limit innovation [we already don"t limit it, see data way, way above] DMA rocks [this was apparently the main theme from SMEs at the French Embassy last night too]. To be clear, we exclude no one, we need you, we jsut need more flexibility. Procurement will now start at home. We will have sovereign arbitestools work tools.

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                                    Merz #digitalsovereignty : tomorrow we all get to see the great omnibus package we've prposed. it's a litmus test: can we not limit innovation [we already don"t limit it, see data way, way above] DMA rocks [this was apparently the main theme from SMEs at the French Embassy last night too]. To be clear, we exclude no one, we need you, we jsut need more flexibility. Procurement will now start at home. We will have sovereign arbitestools work tools.

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                                    #39

                                    Merz #digitalsovereignty : Opendesk is already there [does anyone willingly use it?] Common goods were presented here today. We are sending a clear signal, we need digital tech and we need them here at home. Invetstment will start. Lots of money for AI. €18B maybe. the next AI generatin will be shaped in Europe. We are providng the framework, you need to fill it with life. We must decide for digital sovereignty. Which AI language models will we use We must decide.

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                                      Merz #digitalsovereignty : Opendesk is already there [does anyone willingly use it?] Common goods were presented here today. We are sending a clear signal, we need digital tech and we need them here at home. Invetstment will start. Lots of money for AI. €18B maybe. the next AI generatin will be shaped in Europe. We are providng the framework, you need to fill it with life. We must decide for digital sovereignty. Which AI language models will we use We must decide.

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                                      @j2bryson

                                      " Opendesk is already there [does anyone willingly use it?] "

                                      That doesn't exactly sound like a ... recommendation?

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