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  3. Age verification is a deliberate attack on system sovereignty, both for individuals and countries.

Age verification is a deliberate attack on system sovereignty, both for individuals and countries.

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  • joehenzi@social.vivaldi.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @thesquirrelfish @mhoye we're all being abused - I'm super suspect of people out here defending these evil company's right to make money off us.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoibAbdQf58

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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      Age verification is a deliberate attack on system sovereignty, both for individuals and countries. There’s no “age verifcation”, there is only “identity verification that includes age”, and the system doing that verification is not just a privacy-invasive user tracking system but a remotely controlled off switch for anyone of any age.

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      #32

      @mhoye So, where in all of this silliness, are the adults, who in theory, are taking responsibility for the accountability of their children?

      Age verification is easy to defeat... false IDs, anyone? Verification will lead to a new, improved, false ID industry. And who will monitor the databases for accuracy? Will ICE pay you a visit to demand your „Papieren“?

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      • tedmielczarek@mastodon.socialT tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

        @Offbeatmammal @taatm @mhoye @Gargron I, personally, do not want any government or corporation to hold that kind of power over what I can do with my own computing devices.

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        #33

        @tedmielczarek @Offbeatmammal @taatm @mhoye @Gargron But I do want them accountable when they force it on me anyway.

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        • joehenzi@social.vivaldi.netJ joehenzi@social.vivaldi.net

          @mhoye @thesquirrelfish sorry you're stuck in a loop - age verification is a red herring, you're going in circles on it

          to the point, you're now saying social media companies should police themselves for some reason?

          if there are products that are so harmful we need to protect people of certain ages then maybe, idk, we should get rid of those products

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          @JoeHenzi @mhoye @thesquirrelfish

          oh, so given the epstein class, age verification wpuld make it so much simpler to find all the youngsters they want to prey on.

          great move. ...NOT

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            #35

            @thesquirrelfish @JoeHenzi @mhoye

            imho protection only works by building strong digital social support grounded in offline first and local next communities. Giving sole far away anonymous epstein class government all the data of the vulnerable will very much cause more harm and not more good.

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            • serapath@mastodon.gamedev.placeS serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @JoeHenzi @mhoye @thesquirrelfish

              oh, so given the epstein class, age verification wpuld make it so much simpler to find all the youngsters they want to prey on.

              great move. ...NOT

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              #36

              @serapath @mhoye @thesquirrelfish I have never in my life asked for age verification, you're replying to me saying to stop bringing it up as a solution

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              • serapath@mastodon.gamedev.placeS serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @thesquirrelfish @JoeHenzi @mhoye

                imho protection only works by building strong digital social support grounded in offline first and local next communities. Giving sole far away anonymous epstein class government all the data of the vulnerable will very much cause more harm and not more good.

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                #37

                @serapath @thesquirrelfish @mhoye you've said "epstein class" twice now in unrelated ways - no one is pushing for giving any data away, you're not replying to us. It's not even sensical.

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                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                  @JoeHenzi @thesquirrelfish bad news about how prohibition worked out, I guess.

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                  @mhoye @JoeHenzi @thesquirrelfish prohibition actually worked very well, alcoholism rates lowered substantially and never rose back up. the "prohibition didn't work" is propaganda by the alcohol industry not rooted in reality

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                  • lalah@sakurajima.moeL lalah@sakurajima.moe

                    @mhoye @JoeHenzi @thesquirrelfish prohibition actually worked very well, alcoholism rates lowered substantially and never rose back up. the "prohibition didn't work" is propaganda by the alcohol industry not rooted in reality

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                    #39

                    @lalah @mhoye @thesquirrelfish It's a real conservative mindset that protects companies rights to make money on harmful products as opposed to stopping the ability for them to cause harm. Kids died, we have a duty to stop it. Doing nothing is a choice, not the only one. But people get really upset when you point out there are kids dying and they are choosing to do nothing - but that's their decision.

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                    • joehenzi@social.vivaldi.netJ joehenzi@social.vivaldi.net

                      @serapath @thesquirrelfish @mhoye you've said "epstein class" twice now in unrelated ways - no one is pushing for giving any data away, you're not replying to us. It's not even sensical.

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                      #40

                      @JoeHenzi @thesquirrelfish @mhoye sry. guess i misunderstood it then 🤷‍♀️

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